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Well, I tried to accept their counter offer but I by a total accident wrote down a wrong number. I even liked the realtor so this is extra disgusting. I'm not exactly pleased with myself but I'm telling myself it's not cheating if their realtor and the owners can do the same fact checking as I can, right? I'm not being a bitch! Right? This is why I don't trade tech stocks at all.
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Trust me, you don't want to sell even used toilet paper to me.
The house I put in am offer for is about 4km from the city center, on a lot big enough to be divided in two. It was under no splitting thingy by the city till last spring, but it's not anymore so the seller is under a false impression of the places worth. They could sell the extra lot alone for 200. This is where it gets fucked up... The house had a leaking pipe ten years ago and it was fixed by the insurance company's contractor who happens to be an old pall of mine so I got a good picture of the houses real condition, also since the damage happened under their ownership, I am not required to tell that to the person who buys it from me. That's an other 100k. Then I have to put 50k (okay, 45,500 but who's counting...) to fix it up, and off to my summer house paid by this house I go. You don't want to sell anything ever to me. I'm a complete fucker when it comes to money.
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Agreed in most respects -- I too value fiscal responsibility, human rights, rule of law, etc.
Yet both you and GrussGott repeated something that, while sometimes true, is not exclusively true... You say 'liberals' "only want stuff without calculating the profit too often" and GG said (I think) that Democrats are the party of wealth destruction. I try not to be partisan, and I don't think either of you are partisan (or perhaps your partisanship aligns with my own...), but those statements reflect partisan propaganda more than reality. I think you would agree that the other statements you make reflect the conclusion that the more productive citizens there are in a society compared to non-productive the better off the society. Therefore, 'programs' that spend societal resources to that end might actually be cost-effective, especially in the longer run. For example, there is a pretty straight line between spending on Headstart and spending on juvenile detention and prison 15-20 years down the line. Other forms of assistance -- some effective, some not (different discussion) -- can be viewed in the same way, leading to your goal "...move up to the next bracket and for them to pay more taxes instead of being at risk of being a part of our social security system". I'm all for that -- that is 99% of the reason I frequently support such programs.. Yet 'conservatives' (that term again, sorry) will characterize such spending as woolly-headed handouts that create dependence or permit fraud -- i.e. 'welfare queens'. While again, sometimes true, not true generally, and the babies all get thrown out with the bathwater. But this is back to the primary point -- what does 'conservative' even mean? -- which recalls the last half of your posting. At this point it seems to include numerous negative philosophical conclusions that lead to primary focus on abortion, lbgtq, bathrooms, guns guns guns (for protection), god & country, etc. Lots of fear there, which I think isn't/shouldn't be part of the calculus of budgets, etc. Perhaps what GG is really describing is 'Liberal' with big-L (sounds oddly like a JK song my kids used to play), and signaling a return to public sphere / private sphere distinctions so we can exercise a bit more pragmatism and less partisanship -- probably putting words in his mouth. Not sure if I'm making sense here -- got no sleep last night, having terribly allergies this morning, worried sick that my car is non-CP (lol) but at least no one can buy an F80 in SSII anymore... Oh, and by the bye, I'm a devout capitalist who suffered massive wealth destruction (temporary thank god) about 10 years ago -- was that all the Democrats fault? Quote:
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Agree with just about everything you say here, but still having a hard time with the term 'conservative'. To me that's originally a burkean 'let things change, but slowly' concept, not necessarily a position on economic theory.
Completely agree that the majority of those who call themselves 'conservative' these days appear to do so for culture war reasons -- Trumpers in particular seem apparently happy to continue bankrupting the treasury, so long as they win the bathroom wars. My preference would be a Congress & Administration composed of centrist Republicans/Democrats that spent most of its time on economic issues, the rule of law, and the enforcement (without value comment) of basic human rights. That would apply pragmatic analysis (without value judgement) to social issues perceived and discussed in common, and work toward (as Lups said) "move up to the next bracket and for them to pay more taxes instead of being at risk of being a part of our social security system", or the "rising tide of wealth". Dreaming, I know.. Again, perhaps Liberalism is the best (albeit imperfect) term for it.. Quote:
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It's like you're new here man
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You're right of course and that was not my meaning, in our system we have liberal fiscally conservative party too so I basically can just run my mouth here for all I want.
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The offer went through.
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Yeah, let's not celebrate yet. I don't know if I can live with the guilt. And if I can't, hubby might kill me.
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I still feel bad but I'm pathetic.
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That was a good way to shut me up. Thank you.
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Yes, but that's not the government. Also, some of the charities/non profit are run by his kids. Each kid getting about $2B. So he is giving a bunch away. As is gates. But not to the government.
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Brought home a new dog, male Boxer...7 months old. I think our other boxer liked him...
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Here are some charts on Trump's wealth redistribution scheme: Despite the propaganda that 75% would go to the normals (avg US income is ~$50k/yr) ... nope, less than 16% About 70% of Trump's borrowed money went to corporate restructuring, with ~13% going to wage increases: Lucky for the normals, they're finally starting to realize it's not just porn stars that Trump fucks: And it's surprised Republicans - their big 2017 win has turned into giant zero of a campaign issue |
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Here is some statistics. It appears the about only 40% make over $75k based on 2016 numbers. https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ome-in-the-us/ So I guess that would mean 60% make less than $75k? |
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These are projections, and I think the point is that Berkshire Hathaway will benefit in 2018 to the tune of 50% of its 2017 profit -- don't know if true, but that is the assertion.
The pie chart represents the 'amount of tax benefit' that goes to those groups, NOT the percentage of population in those groups. Quote:
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