Michelin Pilot Sport 4S

[MyFragileHalogen]

Is its sidewall stiffer than MPSS, for longer life of front tires?

[Who's on first]

Originally Posted by MyFragileHalogen

Is its sidewall stiffer than MPSS, for longer life of front tires?

Only 80 miles on my MPS4S's (that's a pain to type)

But, I'd say no.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by F80Paul

Have those springs settled yet in this photo? Kinda disappointing. I haven't installed my Swifts yet.

To me, the 295 tires poke out too much with the 12mm.

[Who's on first]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

To me, the 295 tires poke out too much with the 12mm.

I think 295 no spacer is the ticket.

[domino_z]

Originally Posted by Who's on first

Front sidewall/wheel

fronts look spot on

im going to stick with the oe 265/285 combo

[James0518]

Originally Posted by F80Paul

Have those springs settled yet in this photo? Kinda disappointing. I haven't installed my Swifts yet.

There is a finger gap all around. Low enough for me and my driveway.

[F80Paul]

Originally Posted by James0518

There is a finger gap all around. Low enough for me and my driveway.

Probably just the angle of the photo. I've seen other photos of zcp wheels on Swift springs and it looked lower.

[Ghosn]

Originally Posted by Who's on first

Rear sidewalk/wheel

Tire looks too wide for the wheel or is it just me? Seems to bulge out from the wheel giving it a weird look.

Aren't they meant to angle in a bit?

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by Ghosn

Tire looks too wide for the wheel or is it just me? Seems to bulge out from the wheel giving it a weird look.

Aren't they meant to angle in a bit?

Depends on the tire's design. With its rather wide 11" tread, the 295/30R20 PS4S is designed to sit rather square on the road, which gives it more grip.

For example, the 295/35R19(*) I have on my car has a 11.1" wide tread yet was specifically designed for a 10" wide wheel.

[F80_M]

I was thinking of running 305/30/19 in the rear but it looks like 295 is a snug fitment....

[F80_M]

I was thinking of running 305/30/19 in the rear but it looks like 295 is a snug fitment....

[Who's on first]

I can tell you that these tires are quieter than the MPSS.

[domino_z]

Originally Posted by Who's on first

I can tell you that these tires are quieter then the MPSS.

do you still get that full time vibration through the car with the ps4s, or do they feel smoother on the road?

[Ghosn]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Depends on the tire's design. With it's rather wide 11" tread, the 295/30R20 PS4S is designed to sit rather square on the road, which gives it more grip.

For example, the 295/35R19(*) I have on my car has a 11.1" wide tread yet was specifically designed for a 10" wide wheel.

How wide is the ZCP rear wheel?

[Who's on first]

Originally Posted by domino_z

do you still get that full time vibration through the car with the ps4s, or do they feel smoother on the road?

Smoother, actually thought I put that in my sentence. I clearly did not. Good question.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by Ghosn

How wide is the ZCP rear wheel?

10"

[swifty]

Just installed 265/305 19s yesterday. Been on winters for past 5-6 mths.

Definitely quieter and more comfy than 255 40 profile winters and 255/275 contis.

Also not sure how accurate this is but on fast turns I can feel the elsd sending torque to outside wheel which I couldn't sense with the Contis. Before, I knew this was happening but now when it does send the power, I can sense it.

Only been a day so looking fwd to seeing what the hype is all about. Unfortunately it's cold out today so likely to creep around if I do drive the car.

[Who's on first]

Originally Posted by swifty

Just installed 265/305 19s yesterday. Been on winters for past 5-6 mths.

Definitely quieter and more comfy than 255 40 profile winters and 255/275 contis.

Also not sure how accurate this is but on fast turns I can feel the elsd sending torque to outside wheel which I couldn't sense with the Contis. Before, I knew this was happening but now when it does send the power, I can sense it.

Only been a day so looking fwd to seeing what the hype is all about. Unfortunately it's cold out today so likely to creep around if I do drive the car.

On what wheels? The 305's?

[swifty]

Originally Posted by Who's on first

On what wheels? The 305's?

11 inch, et 40 Signature wheels, lowered on Eibachs

[skalberti]

Originally Posted by MyFragileHalogen

Is its sidewall stiffer than MPSS, for longer life of front tires?

It's the same stiffness as a standard MPSS. Compared to a BMW star rated MPSS, the 4S's are definitely not as stiff as those.

[skalberti]

Originally Posted by F80_M

I was thinking of running 305/30/19 in the rear but it looks like 295 is a snug fitment....

Here's a 295 on a 11" wheel with a +40 offset stock height. I wouldn't want a 295 on a 10" wheel if I was lowering. It's better to have the tire stretched a little on the wheel to give you a little more fender clearance. BMW always stretches their tires on their wheels.

[acarrick29]

Originally Posted by MyFragileHalogen

Is its sidewall stiffer than MPSS, for longer life of front tires?

I just got mine put on today, and they feel a little stiffer (barely). With that said, they are also quieter.

It was raining, but wet traction is 10x better then the stock psports. Car feels great.