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      05-09-2017, 10:06 AM   #1
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Connected Drive Euro/US Recode

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So I have a US Version M4 here in Europe and everything works fine except the Connected Drive,the dealer was no help said they cant do anything about it.

When I got the car a year ago I in the Connected Drive menu I had Apps BMW Online etc. But it was unable to connect...

So after trying to code it I lost everything and no more Apps were available and no Teleservice calls etc.

So can someone help me is it possible to recode the TCB to a Europe Network or if I buy a European TCB with a Euro Sim card will it work or will it contradict with the cars VIN stored in the iDrive CU. ?

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do you have Connected Drive option in your FA, decode your VIN and check.
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S6AC Intelligent emergency SOS call
S6AE Teleservices
S6AK Connected Drive Services
S6AM Real-Time Traffic Information
S6AN Concierge Services
S6AP Remote Services
Also, as I mentionned in PM, most likely the RF unit in the TCB is US/ECE dependant and now I think I am sure, https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicat...tml?id=1557571.

The user manual of lists the following variants and the FCC ID QWY-PNADA from my TCB is for US module V1082-x13.

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The NAD-MDM6200 ist available in 3 variants:
Peiker product # WCDMA FDD bands
2189-082-112-00 (V1082-112) HW0811 BC1, BC8 (EU configuration)
2189-082-114-00 (V1082-114) HW0811 BC1 (China configuration)
2189-082-115-00 (V1082-x13) HW0811 BC2, BC5 (US2 configuration)
All variants include Quad band GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850,900,1800,1900)
So if you want to try, you have to purchase the ECE TCB or that above module (if you can find it separately), you probably need somehow an IMEI that is activated on some network in ECE and a subscription from BMW. I dont think it can be done without the dealer.
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      05-09-2017, 11:28 AM   #3
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I will try to find a used TCB with an IMEI that has a valid subscription
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I will try to find a used TCB with an IMEI that has a valid subscription
Used TCB won't work. You'll have to obtain a new TCB and have a BMW Dealer connect the car via secure server to initialize the module.
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but wont it again initilaize with the US VIN and I will have the same problem I do now?
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Given you said the dealer can't do much, you may be out of luck, maybe try another dealer. If the TCB needs to be associated with your VIN, that's something only the dealer can do.
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but wont it again initilaize with the US VIN and I will have the same problem I do now?
Not if you find a dealer willing to do this the proper way (and charge you dearly for the opportunity). On the up side, everything will work.

I'm not sure how you had Teleservice working before and determined it's not functioning. Depending on what parameters you altered (and I'm assuming reverted back to what worked before), the TCB will apply various security measures. Not easy to correct when the security protocols can't be met anymore due to the cars location.
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so no I cant have the M laptimer back or the apps?, just tried coding it to active but still wont appear, just have the teleservice , hotline and the third thing but none of them work.

Tried coding it on as well as online services but still wont appear...

I have had it initiate a call but the call would never come through , now it just says to pair a phone vie bluetooth even dough it is allready paired.
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Maybe you should VO code whatever modules you were trying things, TCB and any other. M laptimer doesn't depend on connected services, you need the app on your iPhone and that's it (and a cable of course).
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Maybe you should VO code whatever modules you were trying things, TCB and any other. M laptimer doesn't depend on connected services, you need the app on your iPhone and that's it (and a cable of course).
Sorry for being a noob but can you please tell me what does it mean to VO code and how do I do it?

Do BMW Apps also have to do with Connected drive?

EDIT: Just searched it... do BMW apps need a VO code and what is it?

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You can google for more instructions. I assume you know how to use Esys, Right click on ECU folder (TCB), select "Code", it will basically reset its coding to factory default. The useless BMW apps (IMHO) require a connected drive thingy but not the M laptimer.

WARNING: DO NOT EVER VO CODE THE ROOT FOLDER CALLED ECUs
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so no I cant have the M laptimer back or the apps?, just tried coding it to active but still wont appear, just have the teleservice , hotline and the third thing but none of them work.

Tried coding it on as well as online services but still wont appear...

I have had it initiate a call but the call would never come through , now it just says to pair a phone vie bluetooth even dough it is allready paired.
Sounds like Teleservices were never actually working and now TCB has gone into lockdown. Since US TCB cannot use a tethered connection for eCall, it cannot find the paired device.

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Maybe you should VO code whatever modules you were trying things, TCB and any other. M laptimer doesn't depend on connected services, you need the app on your iPhone and that's it (and a cable of course).
M Laptimer does depend on Connected Drive/Telematics/Enhanced USB

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Sorry for being a noob but can you please tell me what does it mean to VO code and how do I do it?

Do BMW Apps also have to do with Connected drive?
Apps and Connected Drive are dependent on each other. I would stop attempting to code it. A legitimate Online ISTA Session would be the next step and that's simply not something you can do yourself.

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M Laptimer does depend on Connected Drive/Telematics/Enhanced USB
Many of us don't have connected drive and have used M laptimer successfully.
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Many of us don't have connected drive and have used M laptimer successfully.
Are you referring to your own car?
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Are you referring to your own car?
Mine and many others in my BMW club that don't have connected drive and use the app. So the OP can just try and plug his phone in and see if the M laptimer works or not, simple.
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Are you referring to your own car?
Mine and many others in my BMW club that don't have connected drive and use the app. So the OP can just try and plug his phone in and see if the M laptimer works or not, simple.
You removed (at minimum) the standard Nav Pro, BMW Assist with Enhanced Bluetooth + USB, and TeleServices? Under what option on the main menu is the app in?
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I didn't remove anything, I have all that (Nav Pro, BMW Assist with Enhanced Bluetooth + USB). The app shows up when phone is connected and app started under BMW apps which is below BMW assist. Hmm maybe connected drive is different from connected services?

I dont have any of the internet browser or other apps people talk about, but my M laptimer works, I can remotely do certain things with BMW remote (send map, lock/unlock, ...). So then, what do I have and most importantly how does it help the OP, now we are OT, sorry !

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I have coded it on, but after plugging the phone it simply does nothing, in the phone app is says go to Connceted drive menu in Car under apps open M lap timer.

I dont have BMW apps anymore so I can open M laptimer. Is there a way to code Apps back on? I went on the TCU module and pressed code, is that suppose to code it back to factory? but all was the same after that.
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OP, so is it you just want the M laptimer, or other "online" stuff ? I honestly am confused now... But start by decoding your VIN, and check what options you have there. Did you even have the M laptimer work on your car ???
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Yes I had it working along with the BMW Apps menu in Conncted drive now I dont have anything... I am looking to have as much as I can or at least have it back to prior state when I had the connected drive menu Bmw Online Apps etc..

By VIN I have Conncted drive services, BMW teleservices, Bmw online, Remote Services, Extended Telephony Production is 04/2014

I have the 6AK in my SALAPA Element

Cant thank you enough for taking your time trying to help me, I am determined to do all I can to make it work

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So you had it working (e.g. M laptimer) in North America, and now the car is in Europe and it doesn't work ?

What else did you modify/code ? You have successfully VO coded your TCU, so that should be back to its defaults.

It would be really stupid if BMW somehow requires your TCU to connect to the mothership to allow you to use an app on your iPhone... something does not add up. and I cant believe BMW didnt think of the scenario of someone travelling with their M between US/ECE. What about those that do the european delivery and their car is sent to US, they also have no access to any of that stuff ???

lemetier said some stuff about TCB in lockdown,... do you have ISTA, i am curious if you would see any faults or anything ?

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So you had it working (e.g. M laptimer) in North America, and now the car is in Europe and it doesn't work ?

What else did you modify/code ? You have successfully VO coded your TCU, so that should be back to its defaults.

It would be really stupid if BMW somehow requires your TCU to connect to the mothership to allow you to use an app on your iPhone... something does not add up. and I cant believe BMW didnt think of the scenario of someone travelling with their M between US/ECE. What about those that do the european delivery and their car is sent to US, they also have no access to any of that stuff ???
I bought the car that was imported in Europe, I had it working here in Europe than I had a friend who is good in coding try and sort the connected drive but than I lost everything.

I can see that the IMEI of the SIM is registred with a US mobile provider and cant have data transfer here in Europe, but dont see why I cant have apps working or transfer the data over my cell with bluetooth theathering...
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