Looks like Our M3/M4 will continue to go up in value

[trooper1414]

Originally Posted by AdnanH35

At my local dealership there are two 2018 f80s in the high 60s… I'm just curious who is paying that much. At that point might as well buy a new 2022

Exactly my point, and folks still continue to purchase them. Honestly how much did these go for pre Pandemic?

[rmanm4]

The problem is that many like myself were waiting for the G80/G82 to come out and ended up disappointed. When the G80/G82 crushes your dreams with it's ugly face and fat ass (weight) you are forced to buy a F80/F82. The G8X is not doing as well as everyone thinks it is. This along with the chip shortage is what is causing the price of F80/F82 to skyrocket. You can get a G80/G82 right now from my local dealership as they have a few available for pickup TODAY for under MSRP. Meanwhile, people are spending above MSRP on F8X cars. It doesn't make sense but it has a lot to do with how BMW fucked up with the G8X chassis and look!

[trooper1414]

Originally Posted by rmanm4

The problem is that many like myself were waiting for the G80/G82 to come out and ended up disappointed. When the G80/G82 crushes your dreams with it's ugly face and fat ass (weight) you are forced to buy a F80/F82. The G8X is not doing as well as everyone thinks it is. This along with the chip shortage is what is causing the price of F80/F82 to skyrocket. You can get a G80/G82 right now from my local dealership as they have a few available for pickup TODAY for under MSRP. Meanwhile, people are spending above MSRP on F8X cars. It doesn't make sense but it has a lot to do with how BMW fucked up with the G8X chassis and look!

Honestly i know it looks a little weird, butI would rather go for the new G8X if its under MSRP then a ~3-4 year F8X unless the prices settle down to what they should be.

[GA335i]

Originally Posted by rmanm4

The problem is that many like myself were waiting for the G80/G82 to come out and ended up disappointed. When the G80/G82 crushes your dreams with it's ugly face and fat ass (weight) you are forced to buy a F80/F82. The G8X is not doing as well as everyone thinks it is. This along with the chip shortage is what is causing the price of F80/F82 to skyrocket. You can get a G80/G82 right now from my local dealership as they have a few available for pickup TODAY for under MSRP. Meanwhile, people are spending above MSRP on F8X cars. It doesn't make sense but it has a lot to do with how BMW fucked up with the G8X chassis and look!

This is it for me. My lease ended last month and I just bought it out for $52k. I don't care how awesome the G80 might be, I think it's ugly and I won't buy an ugly car.

[rmanm4]

Originally Posted by GA335i

This is it for me. My lease ended last month and I just bought it out for $52k. I don't care how awesome the G80 might be, I think it's ugly and I won't buy an ugly car.

I had a sales guy at a dealership try to sell me a e92 M3 for $35K CDN without seeing it....told me it wont last long once it arrives at the dealership....I told him no way im going to buy a car without driving it first....long story short...it sold before it arrived for asking price. He called me to inform me its gone, I asked him why the crazy price and how can someone buy it without seeing it?....he clearly stated, that we have a lot of buyers for e9X and F8X cars after the G8X was released. This was back in Jan/Feb of this year! I know a lot of people want to disagree with this thesis but I went thru it and confirmed it. I sold me e46 m3 and really wanted the new G80 and I almost put a deposit down on it but so glad I didnt. I slept on it for many nights and went a saw at least 7-8 of them in different colours, but I just couldnt get over the looks and how much it weighed!

I ended up finding a forgotten NEW F82 in a BMW dealership 2 hours away, bought it without a test drive over the phone!

[Humdizzle]

with nice E9x and F8x cars the demand is exceeding supply right now. if you want a low mile / high spec car you need to call first and throw money down otherwise someone else will beat you to the punch.

[jibarra]

Originally Posted by bigrum

How was it stolen? I assumed the anti-theft tech would be decent on a vehicle that new?

I've been testing the waters with offers within the last week, I have a 2017 M3 ZCP with ~22,500k miles and near perfect condition:

Vroom offered $20 something thousand, felt like actually hitting the reply button on the email to tell them to go fuck themselves.

Carmax offered $50k

BMW Seattle offered $51k

KBB offered $51k and then I talked the local participating dealer up to $53k

Tracking software sucks. There is a very big fault in these Hellcat cars where you can delete the existing key and code a new one. They are getting picked right out of the dealerships...that's how bad it is.

check givemethevin.com

They had offered me 80k for the Jeep and had a friend sell his car thru there for a nice profit.

[jibarra]

Originally Posted by rmanm4

The problem is that many like myself were waiting for the G80/G82 to come out and ended up disappointed. When the G80/G82 crushes your dreams with it's ugly face and fat ass (weight) you are forced to buy a F80/F82. The G8X is not doing as well as everyone thinks it is. This along with the chip shortage is what is causing the price of F80/F82 to skyrocket. You can get a G80/G82 right now from my local dealership as they have a few available for pickup TODAY for under MSRP. Meanwhile, people are spending above MSRP on F8X cars. It doesn't make sense but it has a lot to do with how BMW fucked up with the G8X chassis and look!

Exactly why I ended in the F80. I tried the G80. My walk away reasons:

-wanted manual and only comes in base model (not a deal breaker, but still wanted the competition package)
-digital dash (it looks nice, but I haven't seen a digital dash that is not laggy in comparison to revs vs analog)
-front...enough said...rear reminds me of Lexus IS style
-3/4 side view looks tame, where's the bulging thickness?

overall it just felt like a car I was compromising by having, and that's something you shouldn't feel after spending $70k+

[Ervin87]

Originally Posted by rmanm4

The problem is that many like myself were waiting for the G80/G82 to come out and ended up disappointed. When the G80/G82 crushes your dreams with it's ugly face and fat ass (weight) you are forced to buy a F80/F82. The G8X is not doing as well as everyone thinks it is. This along with the chip shortage is what is causing the price of F80/F82 to skyrocket. You can get a G80/G82 right now from my local dealership as they have a few available for pickup TODAY for under MSRP. Meanwhile, people are spending above MSRP on F8X cars. It doesn't make sense but it has a lot to do with how BMW fucked up with the G8X chassis and look!

Not the case here in California. All sold out. Two dealerships within a 20 mile radius literally have no inventory of cars, period, yet alone G80 cars sitting on the lot.

The front end is debatable (sure), but over time, it will be clear the G80 is a better all around car in every other category.

F80 values will plummet once this crazy market goes back to reality.

18 months ago, I bought a 2018 Individual F80 M3 Comp , 15K Miles, manual for $51K at wholesale auction. No way this car today is worth $65K+. Folks keep buying them, but their choice.

If I am going to spend that money, I am buying a G80, no matter how controversial the front end is, and keeping my E92 M3.

[Humdizzle]

2018 purple silk metallic / extended silverstone. 20k miles. DCT. Loaded. $65k

https://www.columbiabmw.com/used/BMW...c8bb9fe045.htm

for sale at my local dealer. seen it around town a few times. very unique.

[trooper1414]

Originally Posted by Ervin87

Not the case here in California. All sold out. Two dealerships within a 20 mile radius literally have no inventory of cars, period, yet alone G80 cars sitting on the lot.

The front end is debatable (sure), but over time, it will be clear the G80 is a better all around car in every other category.

F80 values will plummet once this crazy market goes back to reality.

18 months ago, I bought a 2018 Individual F80 M3 Comp , 15K Miles, manual for $51K at wholesale auction. No way this car today is worth $65K+. Folks keep buying them, but their choice.

If I am going to spend that money, I am buying a G80, no matter how controversial the front end is, and keeping my E92 M3.

I agree once the market resets and the whole chip shortage is done, the price of the F80 will fall by easily $10k. There is a reason so many F80 owners are selling right now

[NickyC]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

2018 purple silk metallic / extended silverstone. 20k miles. DCT. Loaded. $65k

https://www.columbiabmw.com/used/BMW...c8bb9fe045.htm

for sale at my local dealer. seen it around town a few times. very unique.

It would have been nice had you not mentioned this car here.

JK of course, all is fair.

I'm looking into it, but kinda tough to put that much money on a four year old car with 20k miles and less than one year of warranty left when I've already got the G82. I also think this is the peak now for pricing, I have a feeling anybody paying these high prices now is going to be in for a bad shock within the next 12 months for depreciation. Of course, I hope I'm wrong for all the owners here and you can continue to drive an appreciating asset.

[Jim45678]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

2018 purple silk metallic / extended silverstone. 20k miles. DCT. Loaded. $65k

https://www.columbiabmw.com/used/BMW...c8bb9fe045.htm

for sale at my local dealer. seen it around town a few times. very unique.

:confus ed0068:

Beautiful! daytona violent <3

[NickyC]

Originally Posted by Jim45678

:confus ed0068:

Beautiful! daytona violent <3

It even has a white interior (my favorite), the only option it's missing which I want is full leather. Really needs to be about $10k less for me to make the switch from a new G82 for it to make financial sense. I wish I had kept my 18 Comp another couple months without getting the G82, I'd be in a much better position to go after this one. Oh well.

[icegrill]

Originally Posted by trooper1414

I agree once the market resets and the whole chip shortage is done, the price of the F80 will fall by easily $10k. There is a reason so many F80 owners are selling right now

Oh man the G8x owners will be so jacked on the day this happens

[NickyC]

Originally Posted by icegrill

Oh man the G8x owners will be so jacked on the day this happens

Well I think the worst that would happen is standard BMW depreciation. Take a G82 with an $80k sticker, I think a fair assumption would be a value of $50-55k after three years and around 30k miles. That's what I went into my purchase expecting, so anything higher than that after 36 months would be a bonus.

[rmanm4]

Originally Posted by NickyC

Well I think the worst that would happen is standard BMW depreciation. Take a G82 with an $80k sticker, I think a fair assumption would be a value of $50-55k after three years and around 30k miles. That's what I went into my purchase expecting.

If BMW keeps pumping out that ugly front end, I can see the F8X holding its value beyond the G8X curve of depreciation! Just like the E46 and E90, the F8X could become the last of the Mohegans!

The E46 M3 is seen as the last naturally aspirated Inline 6.
The e90 and e92 M3 is seen as the last naturally aspirated V8.
Now the F8X will be seen as the last beautiful M3/M4.

[NickyC]

Originally Posted by rmanm4

If BMW keeps pumping out that ugly front end, I can see the F8X holding its value beyond the G8X curve of depreciation! Just like the E46 and E90, the F8X could become the last of the Mohegans!

The E46 M3 is seen as the last naturally aspirated Inline 6.
The e90 and e92 M3 is seen as the last naturally aspirated V8.
Now the F8X will be seen as the last beautiful M3/M4.

Possible, the F8X is certainly worth it!

[BulliesAndBoost]

For those actively looking (everyday) are prices still rising, leveling off, or on the decline? I look about every other week, besides on this forum. So most the time cars come and go before I can track them frequently.

[spidy512]

Yo!

I have been watching for weeks the F80 prices (as well as f87). They seem to be still going up sans the odd dealer who doesn't know what they have. The nationwide stock is redic low. I was lucky and picked up one of the cheapest ones in the US today (far from perfect but I don't care as its a project).

Last week I did a search for 2015-2017 M3's on Autotrader and I got a huge message "WE FOUND NOTING DUE TO LOW NATIONAL STOCK, CHECK BACK IN A MONTH". ??

My M240i I traded in (for 2k more than I paid a year ago) on the other hand is dropping like a rock in value. Vroom gave me an offer last month the dealer matched thankfully. When I look today its almost 3k less. Crazy times these days....

josh

[TractionControlDelete]

Originally Posted by jibarra

Exactly why I ended in the F80. I tried the G80. My walk away reasons:

-wanted manual and only comes in base model (not a deal breaker, but still wanted the competition package)
-digital dash (it looks nice, but I haven't seen a digital dash that is not laggy in comparison to revs vs analog)
-front...enough said...rear reminds me of Lexus IS style
-3/4 side view looks tame, where's the bulging thickness?

overall it just felt like a car I was compromising by having, and that's something you shouldn't feel after spending $70k+

I agree with everything you said… the one thing I'll give the G8X credit for is that the digital tach genuinely does not lag. I did the M performance half day in Sonoma in May and test drove a G82 Base after Independence Day -
the tach is very good. But that's all. Nothing else

[f80_bill]

just purchased 2018 m3 10.5k miles 62k at dealer good deal?