DME FULL

DCT_M3 · 08-31-2021, 01:02 PM

Good afternoon y'all,

I have been having issues with my f80 for the last few days, so I decided to bring it to the dealership. Unfortunately, I learned that my DME is full. I remember seeing something on the forums a while ago about being able to reset your dme, but I have no clue what to do. I don't want to spend a couple thousand dollars for a new one but I need my car back asap.

SYT_Shadow · 08-31-2021, 01:16 PM

What? What do you mean your DME is full?

I have never heard of any car requiring a new DME due to 'fullness'. The DME is not a hard drive that gets filled

DCT_M3 · 08-31-2021, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SYT_Shadow

What? What do you mean your DME is full?

I have never heard of any car requiring a new DME due to 'fullness'. The DME is not a hard drive that gets filled

I'm not sure, all I know is my car has been having issues and the dealership told me it's because the dme is full and that I need a new one

rmanm4 · 08-31-2021, 01:20 PM

DME cannot be full!

Your gas tank can be full. Your stomach can be full. Your USB drive can be full but not DME.

DME does have a flash counter that to my knowledge has a limit, maybe that is what you are talking about???

DCT_M3 · 08-31-2021, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rmanm4

DME cannot be full!

Your gas tank can be full. Your stomach can be full. Your USB drive can be full but not DME.

DME does have a flash counter that to my knowledge has a limit, maybe that is what you are talking about???

That might be what it is. Either way I need it cleared

rmanm4 · 08-31-2021, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DCT_M3

That might be what it is. Either way I need it cleared

What is wrong with your car that the dealership feels the need to update your DME?

tom @ eas · 08-31-2021, 03:33 PM

Maybe misunderstood "failed" as full?

TopJimmy · 08-31-2021, 03:37 PM

Hit up kubax86 to get DME help. Guy is a master.

FaRKle! · 09-01-2021, 12:07 AM

Have you been playing around with different tunes (and are those what's cause your issues)? If you reach the flash counter limit (60) then dealer SW may not flash your DME anymore. You'll need to get a specialist to reset the counter, dealers don't have that capability.

mapster37 · 09-01-2021, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by FaRKle!

Have you been playing around with different tunes (and are those what's cause your issues)? If you reach the flash counter limit (60) then dealer SW may not flash your DME anymore. You'll need to get a specialist to reset the counter, dealers don't have that capability.

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Originally Posted by FaRKle!

Have you been playing around with different tunes (and are those what's cause your issues)? If you reach the flash counter limit (60) then dealer SW may not flash your DME anymore. You'll need to get a specialist to reset the counter, dealers don't have that capability.

+1

FriedPiston · 09-01-2021, 10:40 AM

This is not something any coder can handle. Mike@BPMSport is the help you'll need for any advanced DME diagnostics/recovery.

https://www.bpmsport.com/services/pr...me-repair.html

Wanted_M · 09-01-2021, 12:22 PM

I encountered this on previous platform, ECU has flash limit as well as TCU (DCT launches) but the tuning removed the DCT limit.

mp235 · 09-02-2021, 12:47 AM

MHD can reset flashcounter afaik, but voids warranty, if not already happend due to previous tunes .. and yeah removes the actual tune.

HyeM3 · 09-02-2021, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by FaRKle!

If you reach the flash counter limit (60) then dealer SW may not flash your DME anymore. You'll need to get a specialist to reset the counter, dealers don't have that capability.

Is 60 the actual flash limit? This is the first time I'm hearing a specific number. That seems pretty low and I'm surprised more people haven't hit it

Billy_BMW · 09-02-2021, 07:44 AM

I think tunes such as BM3/MHD automatically install a counter stop once unlocked. So you can flash as many times as you want without the counter increasing. Once you lock the DME and restore to stock, the flash counter only increases by one.

Djdnav · 09-03-2021, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SYT_Shadow

What? What do you mean your DME is full?

I have never heard of any car requiring a new DME due to 'fullness'. The DME is not a hard drive that gets filled

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCT_M3

I'm not sure, all I know is my car has been having issues and the dealership told me it's because the dme is full and that I need a new one

The modules in this car have a flash limit. When it reaches the limit, you can’t program them with ISTA.

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Originally Posted by Billy_BMW

I think tunes such as BM3/MHD automatically install a counter stop once unlocked. So you can flash as many times as you want without the counter increasing. Once you lock the DME and restore to stock, the flash counter only increases by one.

Bm3 inhibits the module tamper code, but the flash count goes up every time you flash something.

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Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Maybe misunderstood "failed" as full?

He brought it to the dealer. Dealers have a different version of ISTA that’s totally online, and will update any out dated modules. It just failed in the dme because the flash counter was at the max.

theweebabySeamus · 09-09-2021, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HyeM3

Is 60 the actual flash limit? This is the first time I'm hearing a specific number. That seems pretty low and I'm surprised more people haven't hit it

Seriously, thats low and I feel like peopple switch maps all the time.

Djdnav · 09-09-2021, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by theweebabySeamus

Seriously, thats low and I feel like peopple switch maps all the time.

It only affects the ability to be flashed with ISTA.

tom @ eas · 09-09-2021, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Djdnav

It only affects the ability to be flashed with ISTA.

+1, most flash tunes only overwrite the tuning tables - not affecting the flash counter.

theweebabySeamus · 09-09-2021, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tom @ eas

+1, most flash tunes only overwrite the tuning tables - not affecting the flash counter.

So in that case, how do you get to 60?

tom @ eas · 09-09-2021, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by theweebabySeamus

So in that case, how do you get to 60?

You wouldn't, unless you're doing a complete reflash (not map changes).

FriedPiston · 09-09-2021, 10:37 PM

I'll just leave this here to serve as a reminder of the platform's history.

Also, this for more historical information:
https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1459315
https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...9&postcount=35

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DCT_M3 Private 35 Rep 93 Posts Drives: F80 M3 Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Tucson, Az iTrader: (0) Garage List 2016 BMW M3 [10.00]	DME FULL Good afternoon y'all, I have been having issues with my f80 for the last few days, so I decided to bring it to the dealership. Unfortunately, I learned that my DME is full. I remember seeing something on the forums a while ago about being able to reset your dme, but I have no clue what to do. I don't want to spend a couple thousand dollars for a new one but I need my car back asap.
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rmanm4 Lieutenant 871 Rep 433 Posts Drives: BMW M4 F82 Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0) Garage List 2020 BMW M4 [0.00]	DME cannot be full! Your gas tank can be full. Your stomach can be full. Your USB drive can be full but not DME. DME does have a flash counter that to my knowledge has a limit, maybe that is what you are talking about???
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FriedPiston Colonel 1973 Rep 2,711 Posts Drives: Scraper Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: East Oakland, CA iTrader: (26)	This is not something any coder can handle. Mike@BPMSport is the help you'll need for any advanced DME diagnostics/recovery. https://www.bpmsport.com/services/pr...me-repair.html
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Wanted_M Captain 759 Rep 950 Posts Drives: Frozen Blue M4CS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Norcal iTrader: (2)	I encountered this on previous platform, ECU has flash limit as well as TCU (DCT launches) but the tuning removed the DCT limit. __________________ M4CS Frozen Blue ARM DP's/Resonated Mid-pipe \| SPL links \| Hotchkis bars \| JRZ RS2/camber plates \| K&N \| Koyorad HX \| Powerflex purple \| Rouge \| Spiegler \| Speed Eng. snorkel \| Vargas CBC/hub \| Wagner IC \| xHP \| Xpel stealth ppf
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mp235 New Member 14 Rep 6 Posts Drives: F82 LCI M4 ZCP SO Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Munich iTrader: (0)	MHD can reset flashcounter afaik, but voids warranty, if not already happend due to previous tunes .. and yeah removes the actual tune.
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