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      05-15-2023, 04:52 PM   #573
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Hey guys I’m taking my 19’ m4cs to the track soon for a HPDE. It’ll be my first time, so what are the main things I should bring with me to the track.

Also going to be putting trackarmour on the front bumper and other panels to prevent rocks from destroying my paint.

My car is at 13k miles now and the brake fluid hasn’t been changed as far as I know, I just got oil changed at 12.1k miles last month. Tires are PSS with good tread on them.

Should I get the brake fluid changed? Should I use a different fluid if so

The stock pads aren’t gonna be toasted after one HPDE right?
Yes get your fluid changed if you don't know when the last time it was done is. Your pads will be fine, you won't be fast enough yet to worry about them yet. Tires will be great for the occasion as well. Be sure to bring:

- Water; drink around 12-16oz of fluids between sessions.
- Snacks; eat small portions between sessions to keep your glycogen levels in check. You will be physically and mentally challenged all day, and both burn energy fast.
- Hat + Sunscreen

For the car specifically, I would just say:

- Don't be afraid to use efficient throttle, I prefer it on track for mid-corner throttle balance / adjustments.
- Don't be afraid to dial back the DCT, I exclusively use S2 and never S3.
- Don't drive over your limits - F8X is a lot of car to handle and can get you into trouble very quickly, so don't push yourself into uncomfortable territory.

For the day:

- Get a ride with someone fast (usually an instructor) so you can understand the type of speeds that you will work up to over time.
- I assume you have an instructor, but if you don't, definitely get one. Not only do they teach you how to drive on track but they also provide invaluable commentary on the track itself (where to put the car, what lines to take, what to look for, etc.)

It's gonna be a lot of sensation coming at you very fast all day, but it's going to be a lot of fun too. Go out, stay relaxed, and enjoy the day. You will come out of it a better driver.
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      05-15-2023, 07:38 PM   #574
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All great advice by RugbyBro. Though you didn't ask specifically, I'll throw out a comment on traction control. If it's dry for your track day (and your instructor is OK with it), consider starting with it fully off, right off the bat. Some may disagree on this, but assuming you respect your limits and lack of experience as a beginner, and therefore start slow and are deliberately gentle with your inputs (as you should be), this is the best way to learn, and will prevent you from ever developing bad habits as a result of the nannies doing things for you (that often in the beginning you're completely oblivious to). The healthy fear of having DSC off will force you to concentrate on being smooth. As long as you take it easy to start, know the line reasonably well and don't do anything obviously stupid, the chances of you spinning on a dry track are pretty darn low at this stage.

Do what is comfortable for you of course, but my $0.02

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      05-17-2023, 12:24 AM   #575
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Yes get your fluid changed if you don't know when the last time it was done is. Your pads will be fine, you won't be fast enough yet to worry about them yet. Tires will be great for the occasion as well. Be sure to bring:

- Water; drink around 12-16oz of fluids between sessions.
- Snacks; eat small portions between sessions to keep your glycogen levels in check. You will be physically and mentally challenged all day, and both burn energy fast.
- Hat + Sunscreen

For the car specifically, I would just say:

- Don't be afraid to use efficient throttle, I prefer it on track for mid-corner throttle balance / adjustments.
- Don't be afraid to dial back the DCT, I exclusively use S2 and never S3.
- Don't drive over your limits - F8X is a lot of car to handle and can get you into trouble very quickly, so don't push yourself into uncomfortable territory.

For the day:

- Get a ride with someone fast (usually an instructor) so you can understand the type of speeds that you will work up to over time.
- I assume you have an instructor, but if you don't, definitely get one. Not only do they teach you how to drive on track but they also provide invaluable commentary on the track itself (where to put the car, what lines to take, what to look for, etc.)

It's gonna be a lot of sensation coming at you very fast all day, but it's going to be a lot of fun too. Go out, stay relaxed, and enjoy the day. You will come out of it a better driver.
How come no S2 on the track? In normal driving I’m always in Sport and S3 because I like the faster gear clamping.

Thanks for the tips though guys, will send a pic of toasted PSS after the event 😂
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S3 seems to upset the car on track because of the fake jerk they put in. I have a basic Comp so the CS may be different but I know a lot of people have told me to get the GTS programming to help this.

I was at a track with a high speed downhill right onto the start finish and the S3 made the upshift for the start finish rather sporting.
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How come no S2 on the track? In normal driving I’m always in Sport and S3 because I like the faster gear clamping.

Thanks for the tips though guys, will send a pic of toasted PSS after the event ��
S2 for all intents and purposes is as fast as S3 but less dramatic. For me it’s the perfect amount of communication to signal a gear change. S3 is more dramatic and feels like a true power shift, which you may not want when on track. If you’re under lateral load (aka mid corner) both S2 and S3 will execute a no-drama, seamless shift.

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S3 seems to upset the car on track because of the fake jerk they put in. I have a basic Comp so the CS may be different but I know a lot of people have told me to get the GTS programming to help this.

I was at a track with a high speed downhill right onto the start finish and the S3 made the upshift for the start finish rather sporting.
Pretty much lol. FWIW I found that S3 with the GTS flash was still a mule kick, S2 was a bit smoother. GTS DCT really made the car much easier to drive at lower speeds, the clutch engagement is noticeably more immediate than non GTS tunes.
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bimmercode is great.

From what I can recall, I enabled folding mirrors when locking, flashing brake lights under hard braking, turn off seat belt lights and buzzer, puddle lights on in reverse, rear camera turns on automatically when car rolls backward, inner tail lights always on (like a rear DRL .. I guess I am paranoid about being rear ended).

Halo brightness adjustment and yellow corners can be turned off too. I am sure there is other cool stuff too ..
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I am sure there is other cool stuff too ..
The folding mirrors on locking is what interested me, I had no idea there were that many other quality of life items we could 'upgrade' on this car.
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When they bite, they bite hard. My car on Cup2's gets happy tailed every chance it gets, it's a throttle dance right around 5k rpm. Waiting for me to slip and send me into a ditch.
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My car on Cup2's gets happy tailed every chance it gets
The dealer replaced the tires with Super Sports before I bought it. I was happy that it had new tires... they're not enough stick.
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The dealer replaced the tires with Super Sports before I bought it. I was happy that it had new tires... they're not enough stick.
Super Sports are terrible on this car, no traction at all.
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Super Sports are terrible on this car, no traction at all.
I have MPSS on mine and I can state from experience that they are horrible. Any WOT on an unprepped surface, even with traction control on, they spin around 3k rpm. Thankfully they’re down around 4-5 so they’re getting swapped out for MP4S very soon
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I have MPSS on mine and I can state from experience that they are horrible. Any WOT on an unprepped surface, even with traction control on, they spin around 3k rpm. Thankfully they’re down around 4-5 so they’re getting swapped out for MP4S very soon
I did the opposite. I didn't like the 4S at all with that flimsy sidewall and love the SS. I don't have the spin unless they are cold but 4S, hell even Cup2, are going to do that.
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I didn't like the 4S at all with that flimsy sidewall and love the SS.
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I have MPSS on mine and I can state from experience that they are horrible. Any WOT on an unprepped surface, even with traction control on, they spin around 3k rpm. Thankfully they’re down around 4-5 so they’re getting swapped out for MP4S very soon
Surprising, I have super sports and while not the stickiest thing on the planet they were fine on the few track days I’ve done so far.

That being said, I’ll jump on PS4S once these are done
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