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Zermatt · 01-22-2018, 03:55 PM

I'm not a fan of the popular BMW key fobs used with the F8x and F30x.
I much prefer the X5m key. So I bought a used X5m key on ebay with the hopes to swap out the internal circuit.

Unfortunately, the internal circuits were too different and incompatible to be modified to fit the smaller X5m key fob.

Has anyone had any luck in ordering an new X5m key from BMW and have it keyed and coded for their car?

JibSTir13 · 01-22-2018, 06:52 PM

Pretty sure someone was able to swap the key fob to a different BMW fob, and created a thread about it. The thread is here somewhere, just gotta find it.

milk242 · 01-22-2018, 07:37 PM

That other thread, the guy basically removed one of the chips on the board to replaced it with the the chip from his m3/m4 key. You need specially tools like a reflow station.

knightarmor · 01-22-2018, 11:16 PM

Looks like this link here is what you're looking for.
http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1331334

Zermatt · 01-23-2018, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by knightarmor

Looks like this link here is what you're looking for.
http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1331334

Sweet thanks for the link! I'm gonna tackle this mod this weekend!!

euro* · 01-23-2018, 01:17 AM

Let us know how it goes, really curious

MFNATIK · 01-23-2018, 10:23 PM

Me too

Brasko · 01-26-2018, 03:09 PM

Just a heads up, but X1 models have the same FOB in case anyone is looking to do this mod.

snowmuch · 01-29-2018, 01:03 PM

Ive done it

Nonopr01 · 01-29-2018, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by snowmuch

Ive done it

Nice good for you and now teach us how to do this......

2kaccordocoupe · 01-29-2018, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snowmuch

Ive done it

Nice! Yes please share the how to.

whitefrs · 01-29-2018, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by snowmuch

Ive done it

Diy??

m34SPD · 01-29-2018, 07:17 PM

It's a secret guys. You have to PM him the secret code: monkey brains.

420Coupe · 01-30-2018, 07:56 AM

please do share, or at least where you sourced the key fob

R0ME0 · 02-28-2018, 04:08 AM

Any updates on this?

Zero_Cool · 03-01-2018, 03:18 AM

Is this need to know only?

Aapparition90 · 03-01-2018, 06:28 AM

Don't know but key fob sucks.. i am sure if someone set up a business for making better key fobs for m3/m4 they would be doing well .

Zermatt · 03-04-2018, 03:13 AM

Yes we have an update!

A big shout-out to knightarmor who helped immensely last weekend on this project.

On a previous thread, it was reported that the IC to swap was the little square 64pin IC. We swapped the two ICs and found that was INCORRECT.

After some online research and testing, we confirmed that this 64pin IC (shaded in red below) is actually the remote transmitter IC. We tested this by using my original 2018 F80 key with that IC removed from the key fob board. The remote buttons would not work but when placing the key against the steering column, the vehicle started up. Conversely, the re-installed F80 64pin IC onto the X5M key did not work (remote unlock or vehicle start-up).

As it turns out, the longer rectangular IC (highlighted in yellow below) is what actually contains the vehicle code and driver data. Unfortunately that IC on my 2018 F80’s key fob contains 28pins whereas that IC on X5M key fob I purchased on eBay has 38pins. Therefore, we were unable to do the swap.

From what I can tell on eBay and RealOEM, there are a few X5M keys available, all at 434 MHz. The part number of the X5M key tested is 66129367403. RealOEM references 3 other related keys (listed below under Group 1). I came across another X5M key on eBay (part number under Group 2 and two other compatible keys per RealOEM).

I am still quite keen on this mod but would appreciate any input from others. Specifically, Im needing to find out which X5M key fob (ie part number) has a board that uses the 28pin IC.

Group 1
66126806000 12/01/2015 - current
66129367403 08/01/2013 - 02/14/2017
66129337246 08/01/2013 - 05/01/2015
66129317138 08/01/2013 - 08/07/2013

Group 2
66126805992 12/01/2015 - current
66129367395 08/01/2013 - 12/01/2015
66129317147 11/01/2014 - 04/24/2015

MFNATIK · 03-04-2018, 10:50 AM

I might be able to get a used X5M fob and open it up to verify the chip. Stay tuned

steven26 · 03-04-2018, 10:19 PM

Maybe the version that has silver buttons like the one in this thread will work: http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1331334

yerevann · 03-05-2018, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zermatt

Yes we have an update!

A big shout-out to knightarmor who helped immensely last weekend on this project.

On a previous thread, it was reported that the IC to swap was the little square 64pin IC. We swapped the two ICs and found that was INCORRECT.

After some online research and testing, we confirmed that this 64pin IC (shaded in red below) is actually the remote transmitter IC. We tested this by using my original 2018 F80 key with that IC removed from the key fob board. The remote buttons would not work but when placing the key against the steering column, the vehicle started up. Conversely, the re-installed F80 64pin IC onto the X5M key did not work (remote unlock or vehicle start-up).

As it turns out, the longer rectangular IC (highlighted in yellow below) is what actually contains the vehicle code and driver data. Unfortunately that IC on my 2018 F80’s key fob contains 28pins whereas that IC on X5M key fob I purchased on eBay has 38pins. Therefore, we were unable to do the swap.

From what I can tell on eBay and RealOEM, there are a few X5M keys available, all at 434 MHz. The part number of the X5M key tested is 66129367403. RealOEM references 3 other related keys (listed below under Group 1). I came across another X5M key on eBay (part number under Group 2 and two other compatible keys per RealOEM).

I am still quite keen on this mod but would appreciate any input from others. Specifically, Im needing to find out which X5M key fob (ie part number) has a board that uses the 28pin IC.

Group 1
66126806000 12/01/2015 - current
66129367403 08/01/2013 - 02/14/2017
66129337246 08/01/2013 - 05/01/2015
66129317138 08/2013 - 08/07/2013

Group 2
66126805992 12//01/2015 - current
66129367395 08/01/2013 - 12/01/2015
66129317147 11/01/2014 - 04/24/2015

Damn I wish i saw this a few days ago. I ordered a x5m key looking to do the same swp. If i get luck and chips math up ill share the p/n. Hope we really figure this out. I did notice that both cars that did it successfully had the silver button x5m key as someone pointed out.

knightarmor · 03-05-2018, 06:10 PM

I think you guys might be on to something there. Zermatt ill also begin searching for a x5m key fob with silver buttons!

01-22-2018, 03:55 PM	#1
Zermatt Second Lieutenant 88 Rep 220 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Bozeman, MT iTrader: (1)	F80 - X5M key fob mod I'm not a fan of the popular BMW key fobs used with the F8x and F30x. I much prefer the X5m key. So I bought a used X5m key on ebay with the hopes to swap out the internal circuit. Unfortunately, the internal circuits were too different and incompatible to be modified to fit the smaller X5m key fob. Has anyone had any luck in ordering an new X5m key from BMW and have it keyed and coded for their car? Attached Images
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01-22-2018, 06:52 PM	#2
JibSTir13 Major 603 Rep 1,038 Posts Drives: F80 / FJ Cruiser Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: California iTrader: (0)	Pretty sure someone was able to swap the key fob to a different BMW fob, and created a thread about it. The thread is here somewhere, just gotta find it.
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01-22-2018, 07:37 PM	#3
milk242 Captain 184 Rep 760 Posts Drives: Car Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Dallas iTrader: (4)	That other thread, the guy basically removed one of the chips on the board to replaced it with the the chip from his m3/m4 key. You need specially tools like a reflow station.
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01-22-2018, 11:16 PM	#4
knightarmor Lieutenant Colonel 855 Rep 1,554 Posts Drives: 2017 M3 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Washington iTrader: (2)	Looks like this link here is what you're looking for. http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1331334
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01-23-2018, 01:17 AM	#6
euro* . 1658 Rep 1,536 Posts Drives: F90 M5 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Toronto, Canada iTrader: (8)	Let us know how it goes, really curious
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01-23-2018, 10:23 PM	#7
MFNATIK Blocked from G80/G82 for having an opinion 3498 Rep 3,729 Posts Drives: Trek Domane Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Mexicali iTrader: (1)	Me too
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01-26-2018, 03:09 PM	#8
Brasko #LSBM3 1420 Rep 1,973 Posts Drives: 2016 BMW M3 Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Oregon / Florida iTrader: (4) Garage List 1984 BMW R65 [0.00] 2020 Ford F-150 XLT ... [0.00] 2003 Mitsubishi Evo ... [0.00] 2016 M3 Competition ... [10.00]	Just a heads up, but X1 models have the same FOB in case anyone is looking to do this mod. __________________ /// M3
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01-29-2018, 01:03 PM	#9
snowmuch Second Lieutenant 107 Rep 254 Posts Drives: 2016 Macan Turbo Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Calgary iTrader: (2)	Ive done it __________________ C300->C63->535->S4->M4->Macan->Macan Turbo
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m34SPD Picture me rollin' 307 Rep 1,130 Posts Drives: e36 m3, e39 m5, f80 m3 CS Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: At the gas station iTrader: (0)	It's a secret guys. You have to PM him the secret code: monkey brains.
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01-30-2018, 07:56 AM	#14
420Coupe Lieutenant 223 Rep 443 Posts Drives: 2015 Alpine White M3 Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: FL iTrader: (0)	please do share, or at least where you sourced the key fob
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02-28-2018, 04:08 AM	#15
R0ME0 "The Midas Touch" 519 Rep 1,055 Posts Drives: F87 LBB ///M2 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seattle, WA iTrader: (14) Garage List 2017 M2 [10.00] 2008 Z4M - SOLD [0.00]	Any updates on this?
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03-01-2018, 03:18 AM	#16
Zero_Cool Lieutenant 191 Rep 527 Posts Drives: 18 M3 Imola 6spd Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Nashvegas iTrader: (1)	Is this need to know only?
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03-01-2018, 06:28 AM	#17
Aapparition90 Captain 193 Rep 806 Posts Drives: 2016 lci m3 mw Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: sydney iTrader: (0) Garage List 2014 bmw 328i [0.00] 2012 bmw 328i [0.00]	Don't know but key fob sucks.. i am sure if someone set up a business for making better key fobs for m3/m4 they would be doing well . __________________ f80 m3 lci mw
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03-04-2018, 03:13 AM	#18
Zermatt Second Lieutenant 88 Rep 220 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Bozeman, MT iTrader: (1)	Yes we have an update! A big shout-out to knightarmor who helped immensely last weekend on this project. On a previous thread, it was reported that the IC to swap was the little square 64pin IC. We swapped the two ICs and found that was INCORRECT. After some online research and testing, we confirmed that this 64pin IC (shaded in red below) is actually the remote transmitter IC. We tested this by using my original 2018 F80 key with that IC removed from the key fob board. The remote buttons would not work but when placing the key against the steering column, the vehicle started up. Conversely, the re-installed F80 64pin IC onto the X5M key did not work (remote unlock or vehicle start-up). As it turns out, the longer rectangular IC (highlighted in yellow below) is what actually contains the vehicle code and driver data. Unfortunately that IC on my 2018 F80’s key fob contains 28pins whereas that IC on X5M key fob I purchased on eBay has 38pins. Therefore, we were unable to do the swap. From what I can tell on eBay and RealOEM, there are a few X5M keys available, all at 434 MHz. The part number of the X5M key tested is 66129367403. RealOEM references 3 other related keys (listed below under Group 1). I came across another X5M key on eBay (part number under Group 2 and two other compatible keys per RealOEM). I am still quite keen on this mod but would appreciate any input from others. Specifically, Im needing to find out which X5M key fob (ie part number) has a board that uses the 28pin IC. Group 1 66126806000 12/01/2015 - current 66129367403 08/01/2013 - 02/14/2017 66129337246 08/01/2013 - 05/01/2015 66129317138 08/01/2013 - 08/07/2013 Group 2 66126805992 12/01/2015 - current 66129367395 08/01/2013 - 12/01/2015 66129317147 11/01/2014 - 04/24/2015 Attached Images Last edited by Zermatt; 03-06-2018 at 04:34 PM..
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MFNATIK Blocked from G80/G82 for having an opinion 3498 Rep 3,729 Posts Drives: Trek Domane Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Mexicali iTrader: (1)	I might be able to get a used X5M fob and open it up to verify the chip. Stay tuned
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03-04-2018, 10:19 PM	#20
steven26 Captain 82 Rep 623 Posts Drives: 2018 F80 M3 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: CA iTrader: (26)	Maybe the version that has silver buttons like the one in this thread will work: http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1331334 __________________ 2018 F80 M3 Instagram: @steven_f80
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03-05-2018, 06:10 PM	#22
knightarmor Lieutenant Colonel 855 Rep 1,554 Posts Drives: 2017 M3 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Washington iTrader: (2)	I think you guys might be on to something there. Zermatt ill also begin searching for a x5m key fob with silver buttons!
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