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      01-07-2019, 06:01 PM   #265
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MSRP $82k
Rebate: $3,750
Discount: $7,000

I actually found better deals at other dealers, but they had missing options or options I didn't want. I was looking for a Mineral Grey ZCP with Silverstone interior and this was the last one in Texas. I could have done a little better but ultimately I'm happy I got the exact spec I was looking for.
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I got $9,250 off MSRP two days before 2019, I didn't know the residual would change that much so mine was 57% on my M3 ... 36 months / 10k per year, I put down $3,500 and my payment is $980, probably could have been $880 if I waited . My msrp was $88,000 though as mine is fully loaded plus had the M perf spoiler, diffuser, and front splitters and lip.

I'm pretty mad about it though. I called the dealership and they said there is no way I would have received the same discount on that car in Jan, not sure if I believe them but if that's the case maybe it would have been the same payment anyway even with 61%.
Now many dealership will not give as much discount since the residual went up. As your $9250 off msrp, that discount is not include the rebates and incentive right?
That was the total discounted, it was $1000 for loyalty, and not sure how the rest was labeled but my total discount was almost 10k.
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That was the total discounted, it was $1000 for loyalty, and not sure how the rest was labeled but my total discount was almost 10k.
you are right if you include all the discount, rebates and incentive. I was wonder if they can do more than $10k but most of the dealer would not.
The quote i got is $5500 off MSRP and $4500 rebates and incentive on the Imola Red M3.
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That was the total discounted, it was $1000 for loyalty, and not sure how the rest was labeled but my total discount was almost 10k.
you are right if you include all the discount, rebates and incentive. I was wonder if they can do more than $10k but most of the dealer would not.
The quote i got is $5500 off MSRP and $4500 rebates and incentive on the Imola Red M3.
So you think I could have gotten the same deal with a 61% residual? Freken two days later, I'm so mad.
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So you think I could have gotten the same deal with a 61% residual? Freken two days later, I'm so mad.
Ya. Didn't think the residual will go up to 61%. I was surprise too.
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      01-08-2019, 09:59 AM   #270
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MSRP 69295
Discount 5123
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Still think this is high, at only around 7% off before rebates, but maybe not since it barely has any options.
Bump, any thoughts?
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      01-08-2019, 10:18 AM   #271
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Discount 5123
Rebates 3750

Still think this is high, at only around 7% off before rebates, but maybe not since it barely has any options.
Bump, any thoughts?
Discount is pretty decent and it looks like dealers have reverted back to discounting it 7% or so plus incentives due to the residual increase.
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      01-08-2019, 09:50 PM   #272
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Discount is pretty decent and it looks like dealers have reverted back to discounting it 7% or so plus incentives due to the residual increase.

Please send some of those positive vibes over to Florida.

Went again today and no discount. Same story. They don't discount M cars. The discount was the incentives and those weren't even full. Instead of $2500 lease credit, they were giving me $2000. The lowest they were allowed to go on the MF was .00208 ( I have excellent credit). Let's not mention the miscellaneous fees such as Lunch fee, Car Wash fee, etc. I didn't even fight those since I couldn't even get past the MSRP discount negotiation.

I give up. Unfortunately, if I want the car from a Florida dealer, I will have to pay full MSRP and well over $1100/month. Can I pay it? Sure, but I will feel really dumb doing it. I wanted to lease but if I want a fair deal I'm going to have to look outside of Florida and buy. That seems like the best route.

I was wondering if maybe it was me coming off smug or like a pushover but I'm not. Being very friendly but stern. I just don't know. Maybe just poor negotiator.

Anyways, I'll go back to my Jeep for now I guess.

Thanks everyone for the input, suggestions and knowledge given. I've learned a great deal.
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Bump, any thoughts?
The deal is fair. The dealer give pretty good discount on the M.
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      01-09-2019, 02:10 AM   #274
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Discount is pretty decent and it looks like dealers have reverted back to discounting it 7% or so plus incentives due to the residual increase.

Please send some of those positive vibes over to Florida.

Went again today and no discount. Same story. They don't discount M cars. The discount was the incentives and those weren't even full. Instead of $2500 lease credit, they were giving me $2000. The lowest they were allowed to go on the MF was .00208 ( I have excellent credit). Let's not mention the miscellaneous fees such as Lunch fee, Car Wash fee, etc. I didn't even fight those since I couldn't even get past the MSRP discount negotiation.

I give up. Unfortunately, if I want the car from a Florida dealer, I will have to pay full MSRP and well over $1100/month. Can I pay it? Sure, but I will feel really dumb doing it. I wanted to lease but if I want a fair deal I'm going to have to look outside of Florida and buy. That seems like the best route.

I was wondering if maybe it was me coming off smug or like a pushover but I'm not. Being very friendly but stern. I just don't know. Maybe just poor negotiator.

Anyways, I'll go back to my Jeep for now I guess.

Thanks everyone for the input, suggestions and knowledge given. I've learned a great deal.
Where in Florida are you? I can hook you up with a dealer that will give you a good discount
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      01-09-2019, 07:46 AM   #275
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Please send some of those positive vibes over to Florida.

Went again today and no discount. Same story. They don't discount M cars. The discount was the incentives and those weren't even full. Instead of $2500 lease credit, they were giving me $2000. The lowest they were allowed to go on the MF was .00208 ( I have excellent credit). Let's not mention the miscellaneous fees such as Lunch fee, Car Wash fee, etc. I didn't even fight those since I couldn't even get past the MSRP discount negotiation.

I give up. Unfortunately, if I want the car from a Florida dealer, I will have to pay full MSRP and well over $1100/month. Can I pay it? Sure, but I will feel really dumb doing it. I wanted to lease but if I want a fair deal I'm going to have to look outside of Florida and buy. That seems like the best route.

I was wondering if maybe it was me coming off smug or like a pushover but I'm not. Being very friendly but stern. I just don't know. Maybe just poor negotiator.

Anyways, I'll go back to my Jeep for now I guess.

Thanks everyone for the input, suggestions and knowledge given. I've learned a great deal.
very weird, because most of the decently priced used M2's i found were from florida! maybe look in to buying used down there?
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Discount is pretty decent and it looks like dealers have reverted back to discounting it 7% or so plus incentives due to the residual increase.

Please send some of those positive vibes over to Florida.

Went again today and no discount. Same story. They don't discount M cars. The discount was the incentives and those weren't even full. Instead of $2500 lease credit, they were giving me $2000. The lowest they were allowed to go on the MF was .00208 ( I have excellent credit). Let's not mention the miscellaneous fees such as Lunch fee, Car Wash fee, etc. I didn't even fight those since I couldn't even get past the MSRP discount negotiation.

I give up. Unfortunately, if I want the car from a Florida dealer, I will have to pay full MSRP and well over $1100/month. Can I pay it? Sure, but I will feel really dumb doing it. I wanted to lease but if I want a fair deal I'm going to have to look outside of Florida and buy. That seems like the best route.

I was wondering if maybe it was me coming off smug or like a pushover but I'm not. Being very friendly but stern. I just don't know. Maybe just poor negotiator.

Anyways, I'll go back to my Jeep for now I guess.

Thanks everyone for the input, suggestions and knowledge given. I've learned a great deal.
Buy from out of state and have it shipped or drive it back. If my deal goes through, I will post it. Lol. Some of you will be like
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Please send some of those positive vibes over to Florida.

Went again today and no discount. Same story. They don't discount M cars. The discount was the incentives and those weren't even full. Instead of $2500 lease credit, they were giving me $2000. The lowest they were allowed to go on the MF was .00208 ( I have excellent credit). Let's not mention the miscellaneous fees such as Lunch fee, Car Wash fee, etc. I didn't even fight those since I couldn't even get past the MSRP discount negotiation.

I give up. Unfortunately, if I want the car from a Florida dealer, I will have to pay full MSRP and well over $1100/month. Can I pay it? Sure, but I will feel really dumb doing it. I wanted to lease but if I want a fair deal I'm going to have to look outside of Florida and buy. That seems like the best route.

I was wondering if maybe it was me coming off smug or like a pushover but I'm not. Being very friendly but stern. I just don't know. Maybe just poor negotiator.

Anyways, I'll go back to my Jeep for now I guess.

Thanks everyone for the input, suggestions and knowledge given. I've learned a great deal.
dude, its not florida, it's south florida! braman especially sucks

i was able to get 12% off at ferman bmw in palm harbor and i'm sure you can do the same with many others. also, dont be afraid to buy one out of state and drive it back, thats what we call a US delivery
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Anyone know or can confirm if there is a 1,000 conquest rebate (instead of loyalty) for the M3/M4 to be had alongside the lease credit? Specially in the Bay Area?

My gf got a X3 back in Nov and we were able to get the 1K conquest vs. loyalty.
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Anyone know or can confirm if there is a 1,000 conquest rebate (instead of loyalty) for the M3/M4 to be had alongside the lease credit? Specially in the Bay Area?

My gf got a X3 back in Nov and we were able to get the 1K conquest vs. loyalty.
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Where in Florida are you? I can hook you up with a dealer that will give you a good discount

I'm in Miami.
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dude, its not florida, it's south florida! braman especially sucks

i was able to get 12% off at ferman bmw in palm harbor and i'm sure you can do the same with many others. also, dont be afraid to buy one out of state and drive it back, thats what we call a US delivery

Yeah, agree. South Florida is bad. Don't get me started on Braman.
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Let's not mention the miscellaneous fees such as Lunch fee, Car Wash fee, etc.
Please tell me this is true and they actually had a "lunch" fee on their offer. I need to see proof of this
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Yeah, agree. South Florida is bad. Don't get me started on Braman.
Central Florida is bad, too. No discount at Fields BMW in great Orlando area, where Fields is the only BMW dealer. I guess probably very few people in Central Florida will buy a performance car, so the dealer won't offer decent deals.
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2018 ZCP M3 Lease in SoCal
  • MSRP: $82,620
  • Invoice: $77,225
  • Selling Price: $75,725 ($1,500 under invoice)
  • Incentives: $3,500 Lease Credit
  • Adjusted Cap Cost: $72,225 (12.5% off MSRP)
  • Lease Terms: 36 months / 12k miles
  • Residual: $49,572 (60%)
  • Money Factor: 0.00188
  • Monthly Payment: $965 (includes tax + rolled in Acquisition & Doc fees)
  • Drive Off: $1,767 (First month + DMV Fees, 0 Down)
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2018 ZCP M3 Lease in SoCal
  • MSRP: $82,620
  • Invoice: $77,225
  • Selling Price: $75,725 ($1,500 under invoice)
  • Incentives: $3,500 Lease Credit
  • Adjusted Cap Cost: $72,225 (12.5% off MSRP)
  • Lease Terms: 36 months / 12k miles
  • Residual: $49,572 (60%)
  • Money Factor: 0.00188
  • Monthly Payment: $965 (includes tax + rolled in Acquisition & Doc fees)
  • Drive Off: $1,767 (First month + DMV Fees, 0 Down)
I was under the impression that 12% off before rebates is possible. $72,705 selling price. $860/mo inc tax.
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I was under the impression that 12% off before rebates is possible. $72,705 selling price. $860/mo inc tax.
How many people here have gotten 10%+ off MSRP before incentives when financing instead of leasing? Or do you only get deals like that when leasing?
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