AA vs Fabspeed Midpipe with MPE

[minn19]

Ive been out of the loop for awhile and have tried searching, butdidn’t get great results for what I’m looking for. I’ve had three different exhausts on my F8X cars now. I’ve had a stock 15 and then a non res Remus system on the 15 as well. Now I have a 18 ZCP with the MPE.

The MPE/ZCP combo is better than the other two, but I’d like to eliminate some of the rasp and get a deeper tone while I’m at it (if possible). It sounds like the Fabspeed and AA midpipe are the best way to do this. Also if I can get some HP/TQ gains I obviously won’t mind that either. With those three things in mind, which way would you guys go? I have no desire to mess with DPs for a number of reasons. It also sounds like both have fantastic build quality so that isn’t a concern.

Thanks in advance for the opinions/advice.

[SflBimmer8484]

I'd go with our full Signature exhaust for the deepest note out there! We converted the conventional oem two pipe design to a single 3.5" pipe directly after the downpipes, our system promotes exhaust scavenging along with higher exhaust velocity to produce a quicker spool, more power, and a much smoother rasp free exhaust note.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

I'd go with our full single exhaust for the deepest note out there.

Thanks, I just got the car and its had the MPE installed at port. If I'm not satisfied after the mid pipe mod I may do that. I don't feel like going through the hassle of selling yet etc if I don't have to.

I'm still trying to get rid of some GT350 parts and it is a PIA as most know.

Edit: That is definitely a beautifully/light looking built system by the way!

[SflBimmer8484]

Originally Posted by minn19

Thanks, I just got the car and its had the MPE installed at port. If I'm not satisfied after the mid pipe mod I may do that. I don't feel like going through the hassle of selling yet etc if I don't have to.

I'm still trying to get rid of some GT350 parts and it is a PIA as most know.

Edit: That is definitely a beautifully/light looking built system by the way!

Thanks! We put a lot of time into this system

Forewarning you will need to cut your mpe to attach our mid pipe.

[DanMpower]

I've ran all 3 setups you are talking about.

MPE/Stock ZCP
MPE/AA Mid
MPE/Fabspeed

I definitely agree the MPE/ZCP setup has some rasp to it.

Both the AA pipe and the Fabspeed gets rid of most of the rasp from the MPE. After installing the AA mid to my MPE, at first I wasn't too impressed with the sound, as time went on I noticed it sounded awesome in the higher revs. I went through the PCH/Santa Monica tunnel and it sounded pretty amazing. Almost exotic sounding.

The AA gives the MPE a more deeper tone, the Fabspeed gives it a little higher pitch, both will eliminate the rasp. Both sound really good.

If modifications to your MPE is not your thing, I would recommend the Fabspeed for the MPE since it's direct bolt on, no cutting. The downside to the Fabspeed is the fitment, it will require you to bend a heatshield to clear. The AA mid is a perfect fit but keep in mind it will push the whole system out, so your MPE tips will extend way beyond your bumper. Great if you're into that Need for Speed look.

Some sound clips for you.
MPE + AA Mid

MPE + Fabspeed

[minn19]

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

Thanks! We put a lot of time into this system

Forewarning you will need to cut your mpe to attach our mid pipe.

Thanks, I am aware of that and it doesn’t bother me.

[SanchoDivine]

Originally Posted by RAETD M

I've ran all 3 setups you are talking about.

MPE/Stock ZCP
MPE/AA Mid
MPE/Fabspeed

I definitely agree the MPE/ZCP setup has some rasp to it.

Both the AA pipe and the Fabspeed gets rid of most of the rasp from the MPE. After installing the AA mid to my MPE, at first I wasn't too impressed with the sound, as time went on I noticed it sounded awesome in the higher revs. I went through the PCH/Santa Monica tunnel and it sounded pretty amazing. Almost exotic sounding.

The AA gives the MPE a more deeper tone, the Fabspeed gives it a little higher pitch, both will eliminate the rasp.

If modifications to your MPE is not your thing, I would recommend the Fabspeed for the MPE since it's direct bolt on, no cutting. You will have to cut your MPE exhaust to install the AA mid. It sounds really good as well.

Some sound clips for you.
MPE + AA Mid

MPE + Fabspeed

Great videos man! These should be added to the exhaust compilation thread.

[SflBimmer8484]

Originally Posted by RAETD M

I've ran all 3 setups you are talking about.

MPE/Stock ZCP
MPE/AA Mid
MPE/Fabspeed

I definitely agree the MPE/ZCP setup has some rasp to it.

Both the AA pipe and the Fabspeed gets rid of most of the rasp from the MPE. After installing the AA mid to my MPE, at first I wasn't too impressed with the sound, as time went on I noticed it sounded awesome in the higher revs. I went through the PCH/Santa Monica tunnel and it sounded pretty amazing. Almost exotic sounding.

Speaking of Tunnels -

Mpe swap to AA signature 3.5

[minn19]

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

I'd go with our full Signature exhaust for the deepest note out there! We converted the conventional oem two pipe design to a single 3.5" pipe directly after the downpipes, our system promotes exhaust scavenging along with higher exhaust velocity to produce a quicker spool, more power, and a much smoother rasp free exhaust note.

Trade you straight up with your new CF tips for my full MPE system with CF tips!

[mike@x-ph.com]

+1 for the full AA Exhaust, if you do not have te budget for a full exhaust AA midpipe is the way to go for a rasp free deep tone

[minn19]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

+1 for the full AA Exhaust, if you do not have te budget for a full exhaust AA midpipe is the way to go for a rasp free deep tone

I’d really like to try it, but it gets to be a pain switching out full systems and selling one etc etc. I’m most likely going to try the AA mid pipe for sure though. Thanks for the recommendation.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by minn19

I’d really like to try it, but it gets to be a pain switching out full systems and selling one etc etc. I’m most likely going to try the AA mid pipe for sure though. Thanks for the recommendation.

My pleasure, let me know when you are ready to get the midpipe

[Vertix]

is it possible to buy just the signature rear later if you already have the AA mid pipe?

I noticed on the AA site you choose if you have OEM rear or signature/ is the mid pipe to rear end connection part different if its OEM vs AA rear?

[minn19]

Originally Posted by Vertix

is it possible to buy just the signature rear later if you already have the AA mid pipe?

I noticed on the AA site you choose if you have OEM rear or signature/ is the mid pipe to rear end connection part different if its OEM vs AA rear?

I’m guessing yes, but that is what I’m trying to decide before I cut into my MPE. If I just get the whole AA system and try it out. If I like it I can sell a complete uncut MPE system to somebody. Assuming I wouldn’t have to ship it or even could ship it like that.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Vertix

is it possible to buy just the signature rear later if you already have the AA mid pipe?

I noticed on the AA site you choose if you have OEM rear or signature/ is the mid pipe to rear end connection part different if its OEM vs AA rear?

The AA midpipe used with their exhaust is different than the midpipe used with the stock exhaust.

The one used with their signature exhaust is 3.5"

[minn19]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

The AA midpipe used with their exhaust is different than the midpipe used with the stock exhaust.

The one used with their signature exhaust is 3.5"

Thanks for clearing that up, sorry for the misinformation.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by minn19

Thanks for clearing that up, sorry for the misinformation.

No problem, happy to help

[Vertix]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

The AA midpipe used with their exhaust is different than the midpipe used with the stock exhaust.

The one used with their signature exhaust is 3.5"

Thanks for the info mate! Figured their had to be a difference causing the need for the options on the site.

Cheers!

[Thescout13]

Originally Posted by minn19

I’m guessing yes, but that is what I’m trying to decide before I cut into my MPE. If I just get the whole AA system and try it out. If I like it I can sell a complete uncut MPE system to somebody. Assuming I wouldn’t have to ship it or even could ship it like that.

If you do I call dibs on the MPE if you are willing to part with it for a good price

[2 SLOW]

How much does the AA push out the MPE? I like the idea of a deeper tone but that seems like a deal breaker. I currently have it set up so my tips don't extend past my bumper.

[SflBimmer8484]

Originally Posted by minn19

Trade you straight up with your new CF tips for my full MPE system with CF tips!

No chance in hell

[minn19]

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

No chance in hell

Worth a joke try.