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      08-05-2020, 10:10 AM   #1
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AA midpipe/stock zcp rear vs MPE

Couldn't find a thread on this. Money being out of the equation, which sounds better overall.
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      08-05-2020, 10:17 AM   #2
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MPE has a clean deep sound. AA midpipe sounds good as well but I feel like it gives more of a raspy sound. Really depends what you are looking for. My vote is MPE all day
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MPE has a clean deep sound. AA midpipe sounds good as well but I feel like it gives more of a raspy sound. Really depends what you are looking for. My vote is MPE all day
Thanks. I'm taking my car to my BMW dealer to do Dinan HE/tune/HAS kit. Since the dinan midpipe doesn't fit the F83 and I wasn't impressed with the Dinan axle back I wanted to get an opinion on the options above.
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MPE has a clean deep sound. AA midpipe sounds good as well but I feel like it gives more of a raspy sound. Really depends what you are looking for. My vote is MPE all day
Thanks. I'm taking my car to my BMW dealer to do Dinan HE/tune/HAS kit. Since the dinan midpipe doesn't fit the F83 and I wasn't impressed with the Dinan axle back I wanted to get an opinion on the options above.
nice choice on the Dinan HE, most people overlook this mod!

Any reason why are sticking with dinan as a tune? Considered switching to BM3? If it's for warranty sake, most dealerships dont care what tune is on the car "tune is a tune" if anything goes wrong.
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      08-05-2020, 11:05 AM   #5
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MPE has a clean deep sound. AA midpipe sounds good as well but I feel like it gives more of a raspy sound. Really depends what you are looking for. My vote is MPE all day
Thanks. I'm taking my car to my BMW dealer to do Dinan HE/tune/HAS kit. Since the dinan midpipe doesn't fit the F83 and I wasn't impressed with the Dinan axle back I wanted to get an opinion on the options above.
nice choice on the Dinan HE, most people overlook this mod! Any reason why are sticking with dinan as a tune? Considered switching to BM3?
my bmw dealer has a long history with dinan. I'm not chasing big numbers or track days. Seems like a conservative approach and I don't mind paying extra for their matching warranty.
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OP what dealer do you go to?
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IMO the AA has a deeper tone (which i prefer) but the MPE overall sounds better.

If AA + MPE was something you consider, that would be the best sounding. Just a lot of work to get it done.
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IMO the AA has a deeper tone (which i prefer) but the MPE overall sounds better.

If AA + MPE was something you consider, that would be the best sounding. Just a lot of work to get it done.
I use Rallye. I wanted to stay with as close to OE as possible using M performance or Dinan.
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IMO the AA has a deeper tone (which i prefer) but the MPE overall sounds better.

If AA + MPE was something you consider, that would be the best sounding. Just a lot of work to get it done.
AA/ Remus has a bit more volume
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IMO the AA has a deeper tone (which i prefer) but the MPE overall sounds better.

If AA + MPE was something you consider, that would be the best sounding. Just a lot of work to get it done.
I use Rallye. I wanted to stay with as close to OE as possible using M performance or Dinan.
Then MPE should be a no brainer! It sounds great
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IMO the AA has a deeper tone (which i prefer) but the MPE overall sounds better.

If AA + MPE was something you consider, that would be the best sounding. Just a lot of work to get it done.
AA/ Remus has a bit more volume
That's exactly what I'm running right now
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This is the setup, I'm going to run. I just need to get my hands on AA single midpipe and some downpipes lol!

Doesn't look hard to do. Cut a section and use included exhaust clamps.
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      08-05-2020, 01:23 PM   #13
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IMO the AA has a deeper tone (which i prefer) but the MPE overall sounds better.

If AA + MPE was something you consider, that would be the best sounding. Just a lot of work to get it done.
AA/ Remus has a bit more volume
That's exactly what I'm running right now
I figure the setup I'm going with will be enough of an improvement over the stock ZCP convertible.
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IMO the AA has a deeper tone (which i prefer) but the MPE overall sounds better.

If AA + MPE was something you consider, that would be the best sounding. Just a lot of work to get it done.
AA/ Remus has a bit more volume
That's exactly what I'm running right now
I figure the setup I'm going with will be enough of an improvement over the stock ZCP convertible.
Either choice 100% will. The ZCP burbles are also increased quite a lot with MPE
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IMO the AA has a deeper tone (which i prefer) but the MPE overall sounds better.

If AA + MPE was something you consider, that would be the best sounding. Just a lot of work to get it done.
AA/ Remus has a bit more volume
That's exactly what I'm running right now
I figure the setup I'm going with will be enough of an improvement over the stock ZCP convertible.
Either choice 100% will. The ZCP burbles are also increased quite a lot with MPE
Looking forward to how they sound in a convertible
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If you had a non comp I'd say just do AA / stock axle back, sounds good enough to change the sound up and won't be as mute.

But since you have a ZCP go with the MPE, it sounds so much better with ZCP burbles and it's exactly in-line with what the engineers at M wanted. Having a Ti axle back just resonates the sound differently and gives more character. If you want more sound get the AA midpipe for the MPE, though I think you'll be satisfied already
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I had AA+ZCP combo for almost 2 years on my F83. Loved it but always wanted MPE. Finally I pulled the trigger last week on picking up an MPE but ended up keeping the AA mids. Now I have AA+MPE.
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AA+ZCP was definitely nice for the short time I had it until I updated to AA+MPE. I have stock DP with the combo, and have been extremely pleased so far. Highly recommended though, if you’re comfortable with cutting the MPE.
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I had AA+ZCP combo for almost 2 years on my F83. Loved it but always wanted MPE. Finally I pulled the trigger last week on picking up an MPE but ended up keeping the AA mids. Now I have AA+MPE.
How do you like the sound? I'm mainly concerned about when flaps are closed
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I had AA+ZCP combo for almost 2 years on my F83. Loved it but always wanted MPE. Finally I pulled the trigger last week on picking up an MPE but ended up keeping the AA mids. Now I have AA+MPE.
How do you like the sound? I'm mainly concerned about when flaps are closed
AA+ZCP, loved it but had to go MPE cause I'm never satisfied.

Surprisingly with the valves closed I feel AA+MPE is more quiet compare to AA+ZCP.
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Yeah, it’s pretty quiet with the valves closed, but it doesn’t sound bad at all. I almost always have valves open, unless I’m going through a quiet neighborhood during cold start. Tbh, I’d like it if the AA+MPE was just a bit louder even with valves open. Catless DP on this setup would be way to raspy from what I’ve heard in Justin.Autotalent’s old videos
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