Anyone else get banned from the G8X section for making fun of its looks?

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by RugbyBro

This conversation is exactly why I tell people that I personally consider lips to be a consumable item

At least where CF is concerned. Polyurethane can take a lot of punishment however.

[RugbyBro]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

At least where CF is concerned. Polyurethane can take a lot of punishment however.

Agreed - my old lightweight lip handled abuse pretty well. And that's also where I would personally cap spend on a lip tbh, $5-600. In contrast, an OE CS lip is $2k

I replaced my cracked lip with a knock off but used the same mounting points. Definitely doesn't have a perfect weave in some places like the OE would, but I also have no heartache about any incidental contact with the ground.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by RugbyBro

Agreed - my old lightweight lip handled abuse pretty well. And that's also where I would personally cap spend on a lip tbh, $5-600. In contrast, an OE CS lip is $2k

I, too, had LW lips on both of my F8X's. Great quality and they can take lots of abuse.

[M3WC]

Was randomly watching the live YT stream of Goodwood Festival. Along comes the M4 CSL and the chat starts instantly ripping BMW for their design.

[swagon]

Originally Posted by M3WC

Was randomly watching the live YT stream of Goodwood Festival. Along comes the M4 CSL and the chat starts instantly ripping BMW for their design.

BMW knows. They make screenshots of negative comments on social media.

The Touring is somehow the best-looking variant, it just kinda works front to back more than the coupe or sedan. I've no idea why, but it does.

[Tecnniqe]

Originally Posted by swagon

BMW knows. They make screenshots of negative comments on social media.

The Touring is somehow the best-looking variant, it just kinda works front to back more than the coupe or sedan. I've no idea why, but it does.

Yes, the touring is the best looking one but that isn't saying much :

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by swagon

BMW knows. They make screenshots of negative comments on social media.

The Touring is somehow the best-looking variant, it just kinda works front to back more than the coupe or sedan. I've no idea why, but it does.

I would too. If people clowned my looks, but I constantly had beautiful women on my arm (…my loose analogy for the car selling well and being extremely popular despite loudmouth criticisms), I would embrace the chatter too.

[swagon]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I would too. If people clowned my looks, but I constantly had beautiful women on my arm (…my loose analogy for the car selling well and being extremely popular despite loudmouth criticisms), I would embrace the chatter too.

That's a good point. I bet every marketing dept at a car company does the same. But they literally put screenshots with the usernames in their reports which is what I find funny. Wonder if they keep a tab on certain individuals like us who keep repeating the same criticisms.

It is selling quite well... least where I live. M4 certainly better than the regular 4 Series Coupe by a rather big margin. Not sure about other markets as I don't have the numbers for them. 111k F8x M3/M4 were sold worldwide.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by swagon

That's a good point. I bet every marketing dept at a car company does the same. But they literally put screenshots with the usernames in their reports which is what I find funny. Wonder if they keep a tab on certain individuals like us who keep repeating the same criticisms.

It is selling quite well... least where I live. M4 certainly better than the regular 4 Series Coupe by a rather big margin. Not sure about other markets as I don't have the numbers for them. 111k F8x M3/M4 were sold worldwide.

I am truly curious what the final numbers will be for the G8X. On one hand, if the overall numbers are lower, the COVID pandemic, microchip/supply shortage, etc. will be valid reasons to account for the number(s). Reasonable people will consider that, but those who hate the car will use that as validation/justification of proof the car was a failure in comparison. On the other hand, if the overall numbers are higher, the detractors will say BMW only achieved that because of the COVID pandemic, stockpiling microchips, etc. and the car wouldn't have sold as well if there were more of [insert car/manufacturer here] available. BMW won't be able to escape the loudest detractors no matter which way the ball bounces.

[R N M]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I am truly curious what the final numbers will be for the G8X. On one hand, if the overall numbers are lower, the COVID pandemic, microchip/supply shortage, etc. will be valid reasons to account for the number(s). Reasonable people will consider that, but those who hate the car will use that as validation/justification of proof the car was a failure in comparison. On the other hand, if the overall numbers are higher, the detractors will say BMW only achieved that because of the COVID pandemic, stockpiling microchips, etc. and the car wouldn't have sold as well if there were more of [insert car/manufacturer here] available. BMW won't be able to escape the loudest detractors no matter which way the ball bounces.

G8x will be one of the worst selling generations - certainly less than E9x and F8x.
Supply shortage and hideous styling are the main factors.

I personally know ppl that didn’t get one due to one of those factors.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by R N M

G8x will be one of the worst selling generations - certainly less than E9x and F8x.
Supply shortage and hideous styling are the main factors.

I personally know ppl that didn't get one due to one of those factors.

Maybe. Maybe not! I suppose we'll see. I can't factor in the styling as being an issue right now because G8X's aren't sitting around on dealer lots. There are people who didn't buy the car because of styling, but there are plenty who stepped up and purchased because of the styling. If the cars weren't selling, I would consider that to be an indication of a failed design…….but that's not the case at all.

[stein_325i]

A reason sales will likely be higher is the addition of the AWD G8X. That opens up an entire new market the M3/4 never had.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

A reason sales will likely be higher is the addition of the AWD G8X. That opens up an entire new market the M3/4 never had.

That's a valid point too.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by R N M

G8x will be one of the worst selling generations - certainly less than E9x and F8x.
Supply shortage and hideous styling are the main factors.

I personally know ppl that didn't get one due to one of those factors.

Plenty of us are happy with the G8X. It's a great car with stellar performance. I totally get lots of people don't like it but being ecstatic that it possibly won't sell well is foolish. This could be one of the last ICE M cars. If it sells poorly, we are more likely to get a EV or Hybrid M car next. If that's what you want, by all means keep up the spite.

I, on the other hand, hope it sells well and BMW has the incentive to do one more round of glorious sounding combustion M cars. Maybe they will even listen and make one that is a good aesthetic compromise for the traditionalists and younger customers. Anything else is malevolently shooting ourselves in the foot.

[1FZFE]

Originally Posted by jmg

I, on the other hand, hope it sells well and BMW has the incentive to do one more round of glorious sounding combustion M cars. Maybe they will even listen and make one that is a good aesthetic compromise for the traditionalists and younger customers.

No disrespect, but what makes you think BMW M will do us enthusiasts any favors with releasing yet another ice engine when they couldn't even bother to give us a proper DCT instead of the bs steptronic auto in the g8x? lmao

e-M is already here. G8x is the last ICE M3/4 and they bottled it.

[GERMAN M3]

Originally Posted by swagon

BMW knows. They make screenshots of negative comments on social media.

The Touring is somehow the best-looking variant, it just kinda works front to back more than the coupe or sedan. I've no idea why, but it does.

I agree with you swagon , for some reason it just tends to be more appealing to me as well. Flame suit on!!!
Just something about the way it looks. Hopefully I’ll be able to get a glimpse of her on the Autobahn when I go back home in a few months. Just wish it had the front end of the Alpina! Has WIN written all over it.

[GERMAN M3]

I can’t even!!

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by jmg

Plenty of us are happy with the G8X. It's a great car with stellar performance. I totally get lots of people don't like it but being ecstatic that it possibly won't sell well is foolish. This could be one of the last ICE M cars. If it sells poorly, we are more likely to get a EV or Hybrid M car next. If that's what you want, by all means keep up the spite.

I, on the other hand, hope it sells well and BMW has the incentive to do one more round of glorious sounding combustion M cars. Maybe they will even listen and make one that is a good aesthetic compromise for the traditionalists and younger customers. Anything else is malevolently shooting ourselves in the foot.

While I agree with your overall sentiment, I have to wonder who the "traditionalists" are these days. A large segment of the G8X owners came from E46/E9X/F8X M3's and/or M4's. It's not like every G8X owner is new to the brand.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

While I agree with your overall sentiment, I have to wonder who the "traditionalists" are these days. A large segment of the G8X owners came from E46/E9X/F8X M3's and/or M4's. It's not like every G8X owner is new to the brand.

The ones that chose not to get a G8X because of how it looks!

[NickyC]

Everything is selling well due to shortages. C'mon we know better.

Even if there were no issues, they would have at least leased every last one of them. No ///M car is ever going to sit on a lot unused forever. I think the M4CS is the only one I can even remember coming close, and they blew the lease deals out to move those cars.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by 1FZFE

No disrespect, but what makes you think BMW M will do us enthusiasts any favors with releasing yet another ice engine when they couldn't even bother to give us a proper DCT instead of the bs steptronic auto in the g8x? lmao

e-M is already here. G8x is the last ICE M3/4 and they bottled it.

The ZF8 is pretty good, probably one of the best torque converters on the market. Not as fast as the DCT, but good enough for track duty.

Honestly, you're probably right, they aren't going to do anyone any favors. It all comes down to profit margins. That being said, nothing constructive is to come out of spitefully wishing sales are bad. It comes across bitter and, frankly, childish. If there is even a fraction of a chance that there could be another ICE M3/4, poor sales would only make it even smaller. It's not in anyone's best interest outside of the selfish "told-you-so" crowd.

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

That's a valid point too.

I don't think total sales volume this time will be indicative of the G8x success as a whole. COVID and the chip shortages we all know is still around.

In a few years we will know how the G8x is seen. Probably as a very good car with an extremely divisive design.