M4 F82 Stainless Steel Brake Lines Recommendation

wam22 · 03-10-2021, 01:34 PM

I am thinking of installing a set of stainless steel brake lines with SRF brake fluid since I participate in the occasional track day and spirited driving events.

I could not find a lot of current discussions when searching the forum, so I was wondering if anyone had a recommendation for stainless steel brake lines?

So far, I have found ones made by ECS, Turner, Challenge, Goodridge, and Stoptech.

ABenLauda · 03-10-2021, 02:28 PM

I use

https://ind-distribution.com/product...2a81&_ss=r

NYG · 03-10-2021, 03:06 PM

Spiegler or nothing.

Wanted_M · 03-10-2021, 04:24 PM

NYG I just bought a set for the M4CS. SRF hands down is the best..

NYG · 03-10-2021, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanted_M

NYG I just bought a set for the M4CS. SRF hands down is the best..

Had Spiegler on my M4CS too, now on the Corvette. Top notch quality.

11LMBiSTT · 03-11-2021, 05:48 AM

I did a quick search and only HPA came up for front and rear lines. Where are you guys buying Spiegler lines for the front and rear from?

XsltAnalyst · 03-11-2021, 09:58 AM

I'd say leave it stock

NYG · 03-11-2021, 10:41 AM

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I'd say leave it stock

I agree to this 99% of the time but if he's going to be on the track, it's worth it. I wouldn't install them if I didn't track the cars. Unfortunately the F82 needs a lot more help than SS lines to manage heat on the brakes.

Wanted_M · 03-11-2021, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by 11LMBiSTT

I did a quick search and only HPA came up for front and rear lines. Where are you guys buying Spiegler lines for the front and rear from?

Ask and you shall receive

. Scroll all the way down and choose F or R or both.
https://www.hpashop.com/Spiegler-Sta...ler-SS-F8x.htm

11LMBiSTT · 03-11-2021, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Wanted_M

Ask and you shall receive

. Scroll all the way down and choose F or R or both.
https://www.hpashop.com/Spiegler-Sta...ler-SS-F8x.htm

Yeah I found that link as mentioned in my post. Is that the only place to buy them from on the web?

Wanted_M · 03-11-2021, 11:27 AM

Yes or call them directly.

wam22 · 03-11-2021, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NYG

I agree to this 99% of the time but if he's going to be on the track, it's worth it. I wouldn't install them if I didn't track the cars. Unfortunately the F82 needs a lot more help than SS lines to manage heat on the brakes.

I did a mild track day last year (I was not pushing it too hard IMO) and after about 4 laps, the brakes faded pretty fast. I backed off a little the rest of the day and the brake feel was okay. Obviously part of this is just due to heat on the pads/rotors, but I would rather initially install ss lines for a few hundred than pads/rotors for a few thousand.

ABenLauda · 03-11-2021, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by wam22

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYG

I agree to this 99% of the time but if he's going to be on the track, it's worth it. I wouldn't install them if I didn't track the cars. Unfortunately the F82 needs a lot more help than SS lines to manage heat on the brakes.

I did a mild track day last year (I was not pushing it too hard IMO) and after about 4 laps, the brakes faded pretty fast. I backed off a little the rest of the day and the brake feel was okay. Obviously part of this is just due to heat on the pads/rotors, but I would rather initially install ss lines for a few hundred than pads/rotors for a few thousand.

In this case, I'd add the SS lines last. Put fresh SRF and track pads (stock iron rotors are just fine) first and try that setup for a track day. Stock brake lines are fine tbh.

NYG · 03-11-2021, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 11LMBiSTT

I did a quick search and only HPA came up for front and rear lines. Where are you guys buying Spiegler lines for the front and rear from?

Essexparts is a distributor, you can buy it directly from them (and also AP big brake kits which come with Spiegler lines)

www.essexparts.com

NYG · 03-11-2021, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by wam22

I did a mild track day last year (I was not pushing it too hard IMO) and after about 4 laps, the brakes faded pretty fast. I backed off a little the rest of the day and the brake feel was okay. Obviously part of this is just due to heat on the pads/rotors, but I would rather initially install ss lines for a few hundred than pads/rotors for a few thousand.

Yeah, so that's one of the few but major factory problems with the F8x. Mediocre calipers and zero air flow to them - front of the car is a wall of radiators. A metallic race pad will serve you better but it will also get everything hotter. As long as you're using SRF, you can abuse the fluid a bit more.

Redacre · 03-11-2021, 07:32 PM

I got the StopTech lines from VividRacing. Hard to tell how much of an improvement they made because I also upgraded the stock pads and fluid at the same time. The combo certainly made a difference as you would expect.

Wanted_M · 03-13-2021, 03:18 PM

Installed SS lines yesterday on my CCB's and flushed with SRF. There's definitely an improvement but to each's own.

Front lines

Rear lines

forgemarco · 03-15-2021, 03:28 PM

HEL Performance brake lines in the UK, stainless steel with a lifetime warranty. Sponsor of most of the British super bike grid and some teams/ drivers in British touring cars as well as other series etc.

hellokitty · 12-03-2021, 09:28 AM

Just installed the Bimmerworld V3 brake lines. I’m not sure why people claim these don’t make a huge difference but they certainly do. It’s a no brainer mod for the price of $100.

Initial bite is dramatically improved, heavy braking is dramatically improved. It adds a lot more confidence in my ability to brake on a dime.

My set up is Castrol SRF, porterfield R4S pads and Bimmerworld V3 lines.

I also bought Turner Motorsport lines for my wife’s car and IMO, Turner is higher quality. It has a polyurethane coating wrapped around the steel and there is a swivel fitting on the connector that connects to the hard line of the car.

hellokitty · 12-04-2021, 10:49 AM

I should also comment that while the Turner lines appear to be of higher quality, they are NOT DOT approved. They are just made to Be DOT compliant but not formally approved.

The Bimmerworld lines are DOT approved.

Dasky_spas · 07-11-2023, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by hellokitty

I should also comment that while the Turner lines appear to be of higher quality, they are NOT DOT approved. They are just made to Be DOT compliant but not formally approved.

The Bimmerworld lines are DOT approved.

There's no such thing as a product that's DOT approved. You can only be compliant with DOT guidelines. If a product states approved, it's nonesense.

Rokoz · 07-11-2023, 07:56 AM

I have the turner lines, they appear to be very well made. Definitely made a difference on the car

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Wanted_M Captain 756 Rep 946 Posts Drives: Frozen Blue M4CS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Norcal iTrader: (2)	NYG I just bought a set for the M4CS. SRF hands down is the best.. __________________ M4CS Frozen Blue ARM DP's/Resonated Mid-pipe \| SPL links \| Hotchkis bars \| JRZ RS2/camber plates \| K&N \| Koyorad HX \| Powerflex purple \| Rouge \| Spiegler \| Speed Eng. snorkel \| Vargas CBC/hub \| Wagner IC \| xHP \| Xpel stealth ppf
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Wanted_M Captain 756 Rep 946 Posts Drives: Frozen Blue M4CS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Norcal iTrader: (2)	Installed SS lines yesterday on my CCB's and flushed with SRF. There's definitely an improvement but to each's own. Front lines Rear lines __________________ M4CS Frozen Blue ARM DP's/Resonated Mid-pipe \| SPL links \| Hotchkis bars \| JRZ RS2/camber plates \| K&N \| Koyorad HX \| Powerflex purple \| Rouge \| Spiegler \| Speed Eng. snorkel \| Vargas CBC/hub \| Wagner IC \| xHP \| Xpel stealth ppf
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forgemarco Private First Class 26 Rep 125 Posts Drives: F82 M4 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: United Kingdom iTrader: (0)	HEL Performance brake lines in the UK, stainless steel with a lifetime warranty. Sponsor of most of the British super bike grid and some teams/ drivers in British touring cars as well as other series etc.
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hellokitty Brigadier General 2894 Rep 3,726 Posts Drives: '17 M3 ZCP DCT Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Southern California iTrader: (2)	Just installed the Bimmerworld V3 brake lines. I’m not sure why people claim these don’t make a huge difference but they certainly do. It’s a no brainer mod for the price of $100. Initial bite is dramatically improved, heavy braking is dramatically improved. It adds a lot more confidence in my ability to brake on a dime. My set up is Castrol SRF, porterfield R4S pads and Bimmerworld V3 lines. I also bought Turner Motorsport lines for my wife’s car and IMO, Turner is higher quality. It has a polyurethane coating wrapped around the steel and there is a swivel fitting on the connector that connects to the hard line of the car.
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hellokitty Brigadier General 2894 Rep 3,726 Posts Drives: '17 M3 ZCP DCT Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Southern California iTrader: (2)	I should also comment that while the Turner lines appear to be of higher quality, they are NOT DOT approved. They are just made to Be DOT compliant but not formally approved. The Bimmerworld lines are DOT approved. __________________ 2017 F80 M3 ZCP / AA GESI DPs / Akrapovic Evo / BBS FI-R 19" / Bend Calibration ECUTEK Flex Fuel \| Bilstein B16 DDC + CS EDC / BMC Filters / BMS OCC / CSF HE / ESS CP / Nitto NT555R2 / PD Crank Hub / SPL Suspension / Uniden R7 / Wagner Top Mount IC 2021 Mini GP3 / BMC Filters / BM3 / Cary Jordan E30 / Wagner IC / Remus Race
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