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08-09-2012, 10:06 PM | #45 |
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Wonder what type of modding potential this car will have. Will BMW make it more difficult to tune/mod.
The N54 powered cars are already putting down huge numbers. A 1M will out handle this car and the M4. Plus a 1M will have more modding potential for quite some time, until the new M3/M4 catches up. |
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As for losing comparos, would I be surprised if the M3 loses a few this generation? No. But it won't be because of the inline-6. Audi has greatly improved the performance/handling aspects of it's cars as seen with the current S4 and I'm sure it will show in future models. If BMW happens to lose, it's because the competition has caught up to what they've been able to do well for so long. |
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I knew this would happen... It sounds exactly like a 335i with an after-market exhaust.
That S65 is gonna be a collectible one day! |
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08-10-2012, 12:57 AM | #52 |
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...i feel the handling and use of CFRP to drop weight are going to be the benchmarks of the M3/M4
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I'm with him on that. I LOVE the power, handling, looks etc of the Subaru WRX STi, but I absolutely HATE the exhaust sound and would never buy the car just because of that. People like what they like, respect that.
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08-10-2012, 02:27 AM | #55 |
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This car will sound like areal M to the driver-it will have adjustable engine sound level via BMW sound system (speakers) but to the outside world will not be much noticed from other cars.
Welcome to the new world, enjoy the engine sound inside the cabin. I think new M5 has this option. |
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08-10-2012, 04:14 AM | #56 |
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For all of you saying that you do not care what the new M3 will sound like:
I'm sorry, but for the vast majority of car enthusiasts, sound plays an integral role in overall driving experience. Not all of us live next to race tracks or completely empty roads, so for us, that acoustic symphony is part of what makes a performance car enjoyable on a daily basis. I still get a little tingle in my spine when I get this V8 over 4-5,000 rpm at full throttle. If the next M3 fails to deliver on the acoustic side, I will be majorly disappointed, and will certainly give competitors a much closer look. |
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08-10-2012, 05:02 AM | #57 |
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I have high hopes for this one, Sadly raw power is out the window and this will lead towards the same road much like what happened the new M6. I'll miss the N/A days, but i'll welcome the turbo anyday... Maybe it's back to basics with a little help!
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If BMW puts the fake exhaust sound in the M3/M4 cabin like the M5 - my relationship with the brand is over.
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08-10-2012, 07:06 AM | #59 | |
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All these cars have this feature on them : VW GTI, Ford Mustang, Mini Cooper S Not saying I disagree with your argument, but you might find it is difficult to find a car of the M3's quality without that feature within the next couple of years, if they do choose go to that route. |
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Especially if most of us tend to change to an aftermarket exhaust anyway (stating the obvious as I mention to the other guy) ![]()
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So because the car is bigger than the E90 and in your opinion sounds bleh, this is the end? The end of what exactly? And to say that it's not special and disappointing when the car is a year away from going on the market is pretty... well, negative.. The competitors have almost always had more power and bigger engines than the M's. And still the M3 and M5 have been the cars to beat. |
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08-10-2012, 07:55 AM | #62 |
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My take on the sound is this car is quiet.
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Sjeez, with all due respect but you guys sound like little old nagging ladies. The exhaust note? Really? And the E92 exhaust note sounds better? I remember when the E92 was in it's testfase everybody was complaining that it didn't sound as nice as the E46 and now, a few years later, the E92 is the best sound ever...
I mean come on. This thing has already got more base in it's note than the E92 had in it's testing fase. Just wait and see and don't be drama queens about it by saying "I'll turn my back on BMW" jadajadajada. Because that is just stupid... |
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put me in the minority, but I cannot get past the new front facia of the F cars
![]() Fugly as heck. Performance wise, I'm sure it will be great, but that N55'ish sound and that front end just kills it for me.
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I think like this: take an F30, give it to the guys from M division...reworked engine, chasis, suspension, some weight shedding etc...add all this up and the result just has to be a one hell of a car. |
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