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      02-08-2021, 07:58 PM   #265
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Glad to see you got your wheels, they look fantastic on your car! The 295/30-19 is a bit too wide for a 10" wheel and will lack sufficient sidewall support for track use. You will also likely encounter some issues with rubbing on the fender without some serious negative camber. The widest I would recommend up front would be a 285/30-19 and even that would likely require a bit of negative camber. A 275/30-19 would be about the largest you can run without further modifications like camber plates and a custom alignment.

It is a shame that tire choice is so limited in the 19" sizes.

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I’m running ground control camber plates and -2.5 negative camber up front. 295/30 still too big? No worries, I will stick with Hoosiers or other tires that I can get in 265 or 275.

Also, I melted two of the center caps of the Apex wheels right off last time at the track. Are there any options for metal center caps perhaps? If you can give me the specs/sizes I can look for them.
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I’m running ground control camber plates and -2.5 negative camber up front. 295/30 still too big? No worries, I will stick with Hoosiers or other tires that I can get in 265 or 275.

Also, I melted two of the center caps of the Apex wheels right off last time at the track. Are there any options for metal center caps perhaps? If you can give me the specs/sizes I can look for them.
Right, you did mention you were running camber plates earlier. Even with the negative camber, the 295 /30 would be a bit too wide, especially on a 10" wheel. I would recommend sticking with the 265 or 275.

Regarding the center cap issue, we typically recommend removing the caps prior to track events as this is not uncommon even with the OEM BMW caps. We do not offer any metal options at this time and are not aware of any available from a third party. If you do happen to find a metal option, provided it is meant to work with the OEM BMW wheels, it will also work with your APEX set.

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Victor's M4 was looking mean in these photos with a set of 19" APEX SM-10s in Satin Black!

APEX Wheel Fitment Specs:
  • Front: 19x9" ET30 SM-10 with 265/35-19 Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tires and a 16mm spacer
  • Rear: 19x11" ET44 SM-10 with 305/35-19 Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tires and a 5mm spacer

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Victor's M4 was looking mean in these photos with a set of 19" APEX SM-10s in Satin Black!

[COLOR="DarkOrange"]APEX[/COLOR] Wheel Fitment Specs:
  • Front: 19x9" ET30 SM-10 with 265/35-19 Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tires and a 16mm spacer
  • Rear: 19x11" ET44 SM-10 with 305/35-19 Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tires and a 5mm spacer

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You can't go wrong with Forged EC-7Rs in Brushed Clear!

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  • Front/Rear: 18x10" ET25 EC-7R with 275/35-18 Toyo R888R tires
  • Additional mods: 5mm front spacer to clear KW coil-overs













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Question ARC-8 wheels on F82 w stock suspension

Hi everyone! I'm having some trouble deciding between a square vs staggered setup on my F82 M4 with stock suspension. If any of you have stock suspension with the APEX ARC-8 wheels, please post more pics! I'm mostly concerned with wheel gap in the front

Below are the setups I'm considering. I am going to AutoX the car but probably only a couple times per season, nothing too crazy.

SQUARE:
19x9.5 ET22 265/35-19

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F: 19x9.5 ET22 265/35-19
R: 19x10 ET25 275/35-19


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Hi everyone! I'm having some trouble deciding between a square vs staggered setup on my F82 M4 with stock suspension. If any of you have stock suspension with the APEX ARC-8 wheels, please post more pics! I'm mostly concerned with wheel gap in the front

Below are the setups I'm considering. I am going to AutoX the car but probably only a couple times per season, nothing too crazy.

SQUARE:
19x9.5 ET22 265/35-19

STAGGERED
F: 19x9.5 ET22 265/35-19
R: 19x10 ET25 275/35-19


Any feedback is appreciated!
Hello,

Either of those two fitments will be great OEM+ direct fit options. If going square, we also like to recommend the 19x10" ET25 fitment with a 275/30-19 or 275/35-19 tire. With OEM suspension, this is a direct fit option as well.

I found a couple photos at OEM ride height shown below:

Specs:
18x10" ET33 EC-7s with 275/35-18 tires and a 12mm front spacer (OEM suspension)



Specs:
Front: Apex EC-7 in Anthracite 19x9.5" ET22 with a 265/30/19 Toyo R888
Rear:Apex EC-7 in Anthracite 19x10" ET25 with a 295/30/19 Toyo R888



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Hello,

Either of those two fitments will be great OEM+ direct fit options. If going square, we also like to recommend the 19x10" ET25 fitment with a 275/30-19 or 275/35-19 tire. With OEM suspension, this is a direct fit option as well.

I found a couple photos at OEM ride height shown below:

Specs:
18x10" ET33 EC-7s with 275/35-18 tires and a 12mm front spacer (OEM suspension)



Specs:
Front: Apex EC-7 in Anthracite 19x9.5" ET22 with a 265/30/19 Toyo R888
Rear:Apex EC-7 in Anthracite 19x10" ET25 with a 295/30/19 Toyo R888



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Any pics of this setup?

F: 19x9.5 ET22 255/35-19
R: 19x10 ET25 275/35-19
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Any pics of this setup?

F: 19x9.5 ET22 255/35-19
R: 19x10 ET25 275/35-19
The car in these photos is running that setup with RE-71R tires however it is lowered. I couldn't find any at stock ride height.












You can look through all of our F80 and F82 pictures on our Flikr account. Most photos have fitment specs listed.

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Checkout these stunning photos of Jonathan's F82 M4 on 19" APEX EC-7 wheels in Race Silver.

APEX Wheel Fitment Specs:
  • Front: 19x10" ET25 with 265/35-19 Pirelli Trofeo R tires
  • Rear: 19x10.5" ET45 with 295/30-19 Pirelli Trofeo R tires
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Checkout these stunning photos of Jonathan's F82 M4 on 19" APEX EC-7 wheels in Race Silver.

APEX Wheel Fitment Specs:
  • Front: 19x10" ET25 with 265/35-19 Pirelli Trofeo R tires
  • Rear: 19x10.5" ET45 with 295/30-19 Pirelli Trofeo R tires
Owner's Instagram: @jonatan_belluoccio






I am running EMD springs. Would this be a direct fit without having to run spacers or roll the fenders at all for me? I am in love with this stance.
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I am running EMD springs. Would this be a direct fit without having to run spacers or roll the fenders at all for me? I am in love with this stance.
Hi there,

Here is some additional information regarding that specific F8X M3/4 setup:

Front: 19x10" ET25 with 275/30-19 tires
Rear: 19x10.5" ET45 with 305/30-19 tires
-Brake clearance: SB CCB
-Available in our EC-7 and SM-10 designs.
-5mm front spacers may be required for certain aftermarket suspensions, see
below.
-Front 19x9.5" ET22 wheel can be used to avoid running spacers with certain
aftermarket suspensions due to its superior inner clearance.
-Rear 295/30-19 tires can also be used.

With a 19x10" ET25 front and a 19x10.5" ET45 rear, you can run 275/30-19 front and 305/30-19 rear tires as a complete direct fit on a F8X with lowering springs. Front spacers are only required with aftermarket suspension known to reduce inner clearance.

If you have any additional questions, please do not hesitate to reach out!

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Hi there,

Here is some additional information regarding that specific F8X M3/4 setup:

Front: 19x10" ET25 with 275/30-19 tires
Rear: 19x10.5" ET45 with 305/30-19 tires
-Brake clearance: SB CCB
-Available in our EC-7 and SM-10 designs.
-5mm front spacers may be required for certain aftermarket suspensions, see
below.
-Front 19x9.5" ET22 wheel can be used to avoid running spacers with certain
aftermarket suspensions due to its superior inner clearance.
-Rear 295/30-19 tires can also be used.

With a 19x10" ET25 front and a 19x10.5" ET45 rear, you can run 275/30-19 front and 305/30-19 rear tires as a complete direct fit on a F8X with lowering springs. Front spacers are only required with aftermarket suspension known to reduce inner clearance.

If you have any additional questions, please do not hesitate to reach out!

-Geirsen
Perfect, thank you!
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hi Expert@ApexRaceParts

i currently have swift springs and i was wondering if i could run this setup with minimum rubbing:

18x10.5 +22 squared wrapped with 275/40/18s, thanks in advance!
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hi Expert@ApexRaceParts

i currently have swift springs and i was wondering if i could run this setup with minimum rubbing:

18x10.5 +22 squared wrapped with 275/40/18s, thanks in advance!
Hello,

Thanks for the question. That fitment does require some work to make fit without rubbing. With the OEM suspension or stock shocks/struts and lowering springs, you will likely need a 5mm spacer for front suspension clearance. You will also likely need a rear fender roll and aggressive negative camber both front and rear via camber plates and adjustable rear arms. See below for additional fitment notes:

Front & Rear: 18x10.5" ET22 with 275/35-18 tires
  • Available in our ARC-8, FL-5, SM-10, ARC-8R, and EC-7R designs.
  • 285/35 or 295/35 tires may also be used.
  • Aggressive front and rear negative camber required.
  • 5mm front spacers typically required depending on suspension configuration.
  • Rear rolled fenders recommended.
  • Not recommended for limited-clearance suspensions like KW, Öhlins unless you are willing to modify spring configuration to improve clearance.

If you are looking for a square fitment that will allow for an easier fit, the 18x10" ET25 setup is what we typically recommend:

Front & Rear: 18x10" ET25 with 275/35-18 tires
  • Brake clearance: SB
  • 285/35-18 tires may also be used. Negative camber is recommended.
  • 5mm front spacers may be required with certain aftermarket coilovers like KW, Bilstein PSS10, Ohlins R&T, etc.

With either of the two fitments shown above, a 40 series tire will be more likely to rub under full compression on the inner fender liner and outer fender, especially up front. Sticking with a 275/35-18 will make fitment a bit easier.

A final square fitment that can work quite well with a large front spacer is shown below:

Front & Rear: 18x10.5" ET40 with 275/35-18 tires
  • 285/35 or 295/35 tires may also be used.
  • 20-25mm front spacers required depending on suspension configuration.
  • Not recommended for limited-clearance suspensions like KW, Öhlins unless you are willing to modify spring configuration to improve clearance.

While the above fitment does require a large front spacer, it is easier to make fit compared to the 18x10.5" ET22 fitment.

If you have any additional questions, feel free to send us an email at support@apexraceparts.com!

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Satin black SM-10’s, 19”x9.5 ET22 front, 19”x10 ET25 rear, on Conti ExtremeContactSport 265/285’s. Center caps are color matched Austin Yellow over black (had these made by 3dcarstickers.com). Stock suspension.

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Hello,

Thanks for the question. That fitment does require some work to make fit without rubbing. With the OEM suspension or stock shocks/struts and lowering springs, you will likely need a 5mm spacer for front suspension clearance. You will also likely need a rear fender roll and aggressive negative camber both front and rear via camber plates and adjustable rear arms. See below for additional fitment notes:

Front & Rear: 18x10.5" ET22 with 275/35-18 tires
  • Available in our ARC-8, FL-5, SM-10, ARC-8R, and EC-7R designs.
  • 285/35 or 295/35 tires may also be used.
  • Aggressive front and rear negative camber required.
  • 5mm front spacers typically required depending on suspension configuration.
  • Rear rolled fenders recommended.
  • Not recommended for limited-clearance suspensions like KW, Öhlins unless you are willing to modify spring configuration to improve clearance.

If you are looking for a square fitment that will allow for an easier fit, the 18x10" ET25 setup is what we typically recommend:

Front & Rear: 18x10" ET25 with 275/35-18 tires
  • Brake clearance: SB
  • 285/35-18 tires may also be used. Negative camber is recommended.
  • 5mm front spacers may be required with certain aftermarket coilovers like KW, Bilstein PSS10, Ohlins R&T, etc.

With either of the two fitments shown above, a 40 series tire will be more likely to rub under full compression on the inner fender liner and outer fender, especially up front. Sticking with a 275/35-18 will make fitment a bit easier.

A final square fitment that can work quite well with a large front spacer is shown below:

Front & Rear: 18x10.5" ET40 with 275/35-18 tires
  • 285/35 or 295/35 tires may also be used.
  • 20-25mm front spacers required depending on suspension configuration.
  • Not recommended for limited-clearance suspensions like KW, Öhlins unless you are willing to modify spring configuration to improve clearance.

While the above fitment does require a large front spacer, it is easier to make fit compared to the 18x10.5" ET22 fitment.

If you have any additional questions, feel free to send us an email at support@apexraceparts.com!

-Ian
Would an 18x10.5 +25 (with possible 5mm spacers up front) squared on 285/35 work with Swift springs then?
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Would an 18x10.5 +25 (with possible 5mm spacers up front) squared on 285/35 work with Swift springs then?
Our 18x10.5" wheels for this application have either an ET22 or ET27 (ARC-8 and EC-7) offset. Either one can work as a square fitment with swift springs, however aggressive camber both front and rear is needed. You will likely need a 5mm or larger front spacer as well. This fitment is typically only recommended for hardcore track enthusiasts running performance oriented coilover setups as it is a bit difficult to fit and slightly compromised for street driving.

If looking for an easier fit square setup, the 18x10" ET25 may be a better option. All that is required with a 275/35-18 tire is a possible need for a 5mm front spacer depending on the suspension used. You can also run a 285/35-18 tire as well which will still be far easier to fit compared to the 18x10.5" ET22 or ET27 fitment. A small amount of negative camber is still recommended however.

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19x10.5 +35 square (25mm front spacer) Apex ARC8 sporting 295/30/19 Goodyear Supercar3's. Lots of room over the CCB Calipers!




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