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Idk what shop you've talked to, but I would still recommend the Ferodos as they offer almost no-sacrifice performance on track and can handle the abuse better (confidence/safety benefit). I say go with camber plates, not necessarily GC, any brand will do over the control arms. Apex wheels is a good choice, match those with the widest tires possible. You should stick with a street tire for the time being (Bridgestone RE11/71, Hankook RS4 (longevity), etc.) |
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Another vote here for camber plates over adjustable control arms. Camber plates bring the top of the strut inwards, which allows for much easier fitment of wider tires (275), whereas the control arms push the bottom of the strut outwards, which reduces tire-to-fender clearance.
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01-25-2019, 03:40 PM | #47 |
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Need Ferodo number and Ground Control number
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I think for simplicity sake I'm going to have the shop install Ferodo brake pads and Ground Control camber plates and wait on the track wheels/tires. If anyone has it handy, could you please provide the Ferodo compound number? I have a 2018 M3 with the competition package. Then I'll try a much gentler track day approach and see how I do. Thanks again to everyone. |
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I just ordered the DS2500 so that I can use those till I get a dedicated track set with stickier tires. I am planning to do the Ferodo DS1.11 then for track days.
Also awaiting to install GC camber plates that I have. https://www.hpashop.com/Ferodo-F80-F...?categoryId=-1 |
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01-25-2019, 06:16 PM | #49 |
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I also got the GC plates directly from their website.
FYI, Apex is running a group by on 18” that I was thinking of joining to get part of the track set up going. |
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FYI. I found the DS1.11 to squeal too much for daily driving. Both r very dusty too. |
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The stock pads need good management to avoid uneven deposits on the rotors. It's doable, but you have to be diligent. Note that the stock pads do wear down pretty fast with track use, even on stock tires.
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This is what I plan to do, DS2500 with PS4S for DD and initial HPDE’s, then upgrade to DS1.11 with NT01 or RE71
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That's what I'm thinking. To clarify, the DS2500 will not be great with the MPSS tires?
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DS2500 is more than enough brake pad for the MPSS. You are more likely to notice tire problems before brake fade. As CanAutM3 mentioned, OEM pads can handle MPSS, but require some management. With the DS2500, you will need to manage the tires without worrying about the brakes.
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Kevin, where you using dsc or mdm? That eats up brake pad like crazy. Dsc off and go slower |
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Thanks all. Will try DSC off next time around. Plan on doing about 5-6 track days down here in South Florida each year.
Was able to have the ground control camber plates installed At Bello Motorsports along with some ferodo DS1.1 pads and good brake fluid. Track day this Saturday at PBIR so I'll see how things go. Apex is running a good deal on the EC-7 so I think I'll go ahead and get a set of dedicated track wheels/tires. Wondering if I should consider a square fitment and also wavering between the NT01 and RE71R. Thoughts/opinions appreciated. |
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To echo what a majority of members here have said, we would also recommend running with the DSC off at your next event as this will reduce a large number of the issues you were having with the extreme tire wear. If you are comfortable with the car moving around a bit under you and you feel that you have the car control to handle it, of course. The PSS and PS4S is a wonderful street tire and can handle some abuse on track but as members of this thread have stated, it is not going to perform to the same grip level, or more importantly, the same consistency of a true R-Compound tire. The PSS/PS4S will require much more care and attention to conservation if you are looking to maintain their health over the course of an event. Personally I would recommend a 2-3 lap "stint" where you push the car and the tire, then simply back off for a lap and allow the tire to dissipate the heat that has been generated over the "hot stint". The argument for a driver mod can always be made in any situation here, and a proper coaching session or video analysis will prove largely beneficial in the long term. More seat time and more learning is always the answer! We do have an 18" EC-7 Group Buy going on now (link in our signature) which is set to close 3/13. Some sizable discounts on offer there for a full set of wheels for your F8x. We offer a wide range of fitments for the F8x chassis but for your application we would recommend the following fitment: Front & Rear: 18x10" ET25 with 275/35-18 tires
Front: 18x10" ET25 with 275/35-18 tires Rear: 18x11" ET44 with 305/35-18 tires
Both the square and staggered options will serve you quite well and will shine on track compared to your OEM 20" Competition wheels. You can take a look at our fitment guide here: APEX F8x M3 and M4 Fitment Guide. If you are debating between the NT01 and RE71R, personally I would recommend the NT01. This tire is not as "quick" as the 71R is over the course of a single lap, but is much more friendly over the course of a session. The NT01 will also serve you for much longer, as the 71R compound is quite soft and will not last as long before showing cords. Generally speaking, these are very high performance tires and will require pressure checks and rotation between events to ensure even wear, maximum performance and longevity. I hope this helped, please keep us posted on your experience at the next event! - Max
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Timely post, I am debating getting RE71 on my 19’s, or go 18s with the NT01, hence my questions on your forged wheel reveal and timing of group buy ending.
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This setup works so well that we ordered the identical setup for my wife's 2018 M3. The wheels are arriving on Monday (after being ordered at the beginning of January). We have a 2-day track weekend coming up in two weeks and a 3-day weekend a couple of weeks after that in April.
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So you have to be a wizard? I think I got deposits the first time I touched the pedal on track, and I've been doing this for years.
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