2015 M3 and M4 pictures and specs leaked!!!

[jon102034050]

Dang, that m3 is nice looking...

[RMB]

Originally Posted by BMW M3 CRT

F80M3:
http://www.bimmertoday.de/2013/12/11...nik-limousine/

All facts incl. price:
http://www.autobild.de/artikel/bmw-m...g-4434841.html

F82M4:
http://www.bimmertoday.de/2013/12/11...austin-yellow/

All facts incl. price:
http://www.autobild.de/artikel/bmw-m...s-4489049.html

How does the price compare to the E92 price?

[Wolfinwolfsclothing]

Originally Posted by Blipit_

Exterior looks good, minus the rear diffuser area (just looks odd).

Seats look fantastic, minus the hideous badge.

Still leaning towards a switch to a 991, unless the M4 test drive blows me away.

I agree…except for me its the Macan Turbo because I need the room now.

Originally Posted by Snig

Just as bad as Phoenix Yellow.

Agreed, BMW def take the award for worst colors.

Originally Posted by M3_WC

Doesn't look like an $80k car. So hopefully some of price increase rumors are not true. Still looks like a $60k range car.

Also agree here. Doesn't look like anything close to a 70-80K car inside or out. I think for each better aspect of this car, there is one bad one. Rear diff and rear bumper look pretty overdone and def not clean. Seats look great, but interior other than that is eh. The front bumper looks great but hate the cheap side gills and afterthought hood.
Hope the car look better in person bc the e9x was not good looking in pics but looks great in person.

[erbo73]

Originally Posted by zapp

Final Pictures and Tech Specs (German)

Pictures:
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/b...k-1734078.html

Article:
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/n...k-1734078.html

-83kg in weight -> under 1500kg
431hp, 550nm
0-60 4,3 Manual
0-60 4,1 DCT

Mind you, those are the 0-62 times. 0-60 with the DKG should be sub 4 seconds! That is one fast car!

[metrickid]

Originally Posted by Vitoco

I´m not a fan of the normal 4er (I think it´s butt ugly) but with this M4 they really got it right!

edit: Still prefer the 3er though..

€72k for the M4 in Germany.
The 435 is €47k in Germany and 470k in Sweden. So we are looking at 720k here.

[BMW M3 CRT]

Originally Posted by RMB

How does the price compare to the E92 price?

Sadly I don´t know the exact last base price of the E92M3 ... but from what I remember I would say ~5000€ more for the new car.

[JoeFromPA]

Earl - You are a tsunami of negativity on the new f80. You seem to be despairing of what it is on paper in terms of product and cost.

Also, the M3 has always been for the rich. The majority of people have mortgages for what these run as a monthly payment.

[RingMeister01]

Looks like the Ascari track. Obsessed with the sedan.

[JoeFromPA]

Originally Posted by Naambezet

Nope.

Since every BMW sport seat in the past 30 years has had an adjustable thigh bolster, my only guess is that these pics represent only one seat option - Maybe base, maybe a lightweight seat, IDK.

I'd be shocked to my toenails if they scrapped adjustable thigh support for weight savings.

[JoeFromPA]

So we've had the options list for awhile now. Are we guessing the leather appointments on the interior (i.e. center tunnel, dash, door) are standard?

[py0413]

If full leather option is available and 6/7 speed manual is available, I get enough reasons to fill up my empty parking stalls. Oh, and it's going to be the M3 as I am still more if a sedan guy.

[Black Gold]

Originally Posted by I am Earl

I will most likely buy it in a year or two though, I know I will. I am just upset about the aspects I mentioned above, because I dont track my cars or race them, for me the driving pleasure is the most important thing.

that's the most confusing portion of your entire thought process to me actually.

the s65 really shines over the s55 (conceptually, no one has driven it yet) in two categories. 1, it probably sounds better. 2, it is easy to drive at the track because of its linear throttle response while turbos CAN be tricky if not tuned well. the m3 is certainly the easier car to drive fast and smoothly on the track compared to the 1m for example (tracked both, and didn't say more fun, just said easier)

so for a DD, the massive tq and broad powerband of the s55 is going to make for a much better DD. I base this from experience on owning a 1m which I wish I still had. My 1m actually sounded pretty damn good too with an aftermarket midpipe.

[Vitoco]

Originally Posted by Rossifumi

€72k for the M4 in Germany.
The 435 is €47k in Germany and 470k in Sweden. So we are looking at 720k here.

Ay caramba.. So, have u ordered it yet?

[Powaup]

Originally Posted by basscadet

Sport Auto has just confirmed: 487hp, 459 ft lb torque. 3388 lbs with all fluids.

!!!!!


...yeah right.

Source please

[Black Gold]

Originally Posted by I am Earl

All of what you said is true except I think for me easier to drive is not relevant. I want "fun" and "pleasure", not easier. I want to appreciate driving my car. I don't want a dumbed down car that is easier to drive.

when I said easier to drive, it was strictly speaking about on the race track. more specifically, about a turbo vs n/a car on the track. turbos are a little tricky because of the torque spike coming out of corners when trying to roll into the throttle.

again, my point was that the s55 has superior DD qualities to that of the s65. outside of noise, the s55 makes way more power at all RPMs and will hopefully still pull well to redline.

[Powaup]

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[Powaup]

Originally Posted by starkindustries

What an absolutely ridiculous comment.

How can you judge an engine without actually driving it?

[zapp]

Originally Posted by erbo73

Mind you, those are the 0-62 times. 0-60 with the DKG should be sub 4 seconds! That is one fast car!

changed it, thanks.

[metrickid]

Originally Posted by Vitoco

Ay caramba.. So, have u ordered it yet?

Haha, I have to wait for the final Swedish prices first and see if it is doable mid-lease.

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by RMB

How does the price compare to the E92 price?

i just looked up and found that in 2007, the E92 M3 was listed at 66k Euros in the german market.......so if this one starts at 72k euros then the price didn't go up too much considering a new model and 6 years have passed since that time.

what did the E9X M3 start at in the US market? $60k? so i'd guess $65-68k starting?

[JoeFromPA]

Originally Posted by I am Earl

If you live in a high income area like Manhattan or LA, you dont need to be rich, in fact, you can be in the lower 20-30% income level and afford this car. Now for those people, an extra 200-300/month will make a difference and they won't be able to afford it.

I am not negative at all. I own a E90 M3 ZCP and after owning my car, there isn't much positive about the new car other than its looks and new tech goodies. The current M3 is so good and more important so much "fun" to drive (who cares about 0-60 times) and sounds amazingly well, its tough for us to throw all of that out the window and get used to this turbo charged, low revving, electronic steeting, active sound or whatever else you call car.

I will most likely buy it in a year or two though, I know I will. I am just upset about the aspects I mentioned above, because I dont track my cars or race them, for me the driving pleasure is the most important thing.

Earl, the lower 20-30% of income level in Manhattan and LA are the poor, the impoverished. Since you are in NJ, maybe brush up on the facts:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/19/ny...21-2.html?_r=0

21.2% of people living in NYC live BELOW poverty level. Median household income is $51k.

I know all about high-income, high-tax rate areas and guess what - you need to have exceptionally large disposable income to be able to afford an M3. Or you still need to be well off (i.e. top 30%) but have terrible decision-making skills.

And you are negative. You are blatantly and unabashedly negative. I've read you across many different threads here and you bemoan...literally it sounds like you are moaning the changes to the new m3/m4.

I'm not judging you; most of the time you sound like a troll looking to get a rise out of people. But for the most part, you are nakedly negative about all changes...on PAPER....to this vehicle without ever having driven it.

No offense meant man, just calling a spade a spade.

[CanAutM3]

406 ft-lb of torque