Is the F80 M3 a supercar?

[M4_Ronin]

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[M4_Ronin]

Wow... i guess 5 pages of No wont change his mind... keep em coming

[jmg]

Originally Posted by Ruben7520

Wow... i guess 5 pages of No wont change his mind... keep em coming

Even a fully optioned individual F80 at $105k+ isn't a supercar. Even a M4 GTS isn't a supercar. He's in for a surprise when he sees what a real supercar payment is.

[starbai]

it might not be a supercar.... but it is a super car in my book

[s4play]

Can we agree the Audi is more exotic than the BMW




Fun light hearted question, how many exotics do you see in this photo?

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by s4play

Can we agree the Audi is more exotic than the BMW




Fun light hearted question, how many exotics do you see in this photo?

2

[///M4ster Yoda]

2. The NSX and the Lambo

[jpdchicago]

Originally Posted by ///M4ster Yoda

2. The NSX and the Lambo

This.👍

[stooker]

Originally Posted by ///M4ster Yoda

2. The NSX and the Lambo

Agreed.

[TheHouseWon]

Great car for the price? Absolutely. Supercar? Not even close.

To me, a supercar is in the top ranks at the 'Ring.

[starbai]

Originally Posted by s4play

Can we agree the Audi is more exotic than the BMW




Fun light hearted question, how many exotics do you see in this photo?

2. NSX and Lambo

[s4play]

Originally Posted by ///M4ster Yoda

2. The NSX and the Lambo

100% agreed, both mid-engine but from two different eras

Honda really did something special with the NSX, it's a total keeper and the one car I would never sell. The other cars are all replaceable IMO.


But the M3 is really the jack of all trades, the Swiss army knife of the bunch. It does everything well and probably the first car I'd grab keys to go anywhere, from the track to a road trip. BMW did well with the new M3 and offering it in a 6-speed manual like mine is the cream of the crop

[JibSTir13]

Originally Posted by s4play

BMW did well with the new M3 and offering it in a 6-speed manual like mine is the cream of the crop

Completely agree that offering the M3 with a 6-speed was a wise choice.

If it was auto only I would not have bought the F80.

[s4play]

Originally Posted by JibSTir13

Completely agree that offering the M3 with a 6-speed was a wise choice.

If it was auto only I would not have bought the F80.

I've had almost every generation M3 and it's always been a manual tranny. I made the mistake of buying my e90 m3 in a paddle, hated it and the car lasted less than a year before I got rid of it.

I hate paddles in general (my last few R8's had gated shifters) and recently decided to try a Huracan. Not a fan of the paddles so I just leave it in Auto Race mode but then the shifts are so aggressive it shocks my wife everytime on deceleration......

Put the R8 gated shifter in the Huracan and I can die happy

[x3mdustin]

Originally Posted by M4_Ronin

Hello fellow M3 owners. I am currently debating with someone. He claims that the F80 M3 is a Supercar and i think its more of a Luxury Sports Sedan.

His argument is that in 1989 the Skyline GTR made the cover of many magazines that classified it as a Supercar. He doesn't like modded M3's that are lowered or stanced and thinks they should be left stock. In his defense he owns a Beautiful Jahre M3. So i could see why he would consider an F80 M3 a supercar.

What do you guys think

Well I have a x3m comp, and it's amazing, I drove a F12 Ferrari the other day, is that a supercar, because if it is then I was not impressed comparing it to myx3m, the steering was as sharp if not sharper, the speed was less but did not feel slow compared to the f12, so mcars in my opinion are very capable. Drove a 911 t s, and again great car but not worth 3x the x3m...call me crazy and I'm very picky about performance, happy I drove the f12 it made me appreciate my x3m more and I know it's a special luxury car full of better tech for much cheaper and more reliable etc.....

[Slow M3]

Originally Posted by x3mdustin

Well I have a x3m comp, and it's amazing, I drove a F12 Ferrari the other day, is that a supercar, because if it is then I was not impressed comparing it to myx3m, the steering was as sharp if not sharper, the speed was less but did not feel slow compared to the f12, so mcars in my opinion are very capable. Drove a 911 t s, and again great car but not worth 3x the x3m...call me crazy and I'm very picky about performance, happy I drove the f12 it made me appreciate my x3m more and I know it's a special luxury car full of better tech for much cheaper and more reliable etc.....

The number one criteria for a super car is rarity which no BMW is considered “rare”. I’m not talking about rare as in individual colors or spec. But rare as in limited production usually <1.5k units worldwide and prices typically starting at $250k.

A Ferrari F12 is also, at minimum, 4yrs older than a X3M. So much has happened in terms of tech in the last year much less 4yrs ago so of course the BMW will feel much better and newer but nobody with $250k is gonna buy 5 X3M’s over 1 F12 lol. They’re also very performance oriented so the daily drivability goes down significantly.

End of the day, It’s not about the money for some people. It’s about having something that not only turns head but holds value long term as only limited production numbers can do.

Don’t get me wrong I love my M3 but let’s be honest if I had the opportunity to swap for a super car I’d do it in a heart beat. Of course maintenance has to be included in the swap 😂

[NickyC]

If the M3 is a super car, I'm Tom Cruise.

[M3SQRD]

Originally Posted by Slow M3

The number one criteria for a super car is rarity which no BMW is considered “rare”. I’m not talking about rare as in individual colors or spec. But rare as in limited production usually <1.5k units worldwide and prices typically starting at $250k.

A Ferrari F12 is also, at minimum, 4yrs older than a X3M. So much has happened in terms of tech in the last year much less 4yrs ago so of course the BMW will feel much better and newer but nobody with $250k is gonna buy 5 X3M’s over 1 F12 lol. They’re also very performance oriented so the daily drivability goes down significantly.

End of the day, It’s not about the money for some people. It’s about having something that not only turns head but holds value long term as only limited production numbers can do.

Don’t get me wrong I love my M3 but let’s be honest if I had the opportunity to swap for a super car I’d do it in a heart beat. Of course maintenance has to be included in the swap 😂

Z8, M3 Lightweight, M3 CSL, M3 GTS, M4 GTS and M4 CSL aren’t “rare”? Superb all-around cars but not super cars.

[Yuille36]

Originally Posted by JibSTir13

Completely agree that offering the M3 with a 6-speed was a wise choice.

If it was auto only I would not have bought the F80.

When I was in the market and actively looking for an F80 M3, it had to have a 6MT, with under 10K on the odometer. Then my requirements changed slightly, but the manual trans was always at the top of my list, along with CF roof, extended leather, etc...

[Slow M3]

Originally Posted by M3SQRD

Z8, M3 Lightweight, M3 CSL, M3 GTS, M4 GTS and M4 CSL aren’t “rare”? Superb all-around cars but not super cars.

They’re not “rare” because they’re not built from the ground up. They’re all up tier spec built off exisiting base models. I also literally said in my post that I’m not talking about spec. Try again.

[M3SQRD]

Originally Posted by Slow M3

They’re not “rare” because they’re not built from the ground up. They’re all up tier spec built off exisiting base models. I also literally said in my post that I’m not talking about spec. Try again.

What is the Z8 built off of? I don’t care if they’re built off of an existing platform and they’re “tier spec”. It’s “rare” if you can’t easily find one for sale or at a realistic price. “tier spec” requires even more development over an already “tier spec” chassis. Good luck finding a stock M3 lightweight, M3 CSL and a M3 GTS. That’s “rarity” in my book. A lot of cars, even super cars and hyper cars, are built off of the same chassis/platform.