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Read the responses in the thread as to why many of us still prefer traditional manuals. We know the DCT is a technologically superior transmission, but that doesn't mean we feel we should have to choose it. I'm also still curious on how the long term reliability and maintenance costs will work out for the dual clutch transmissions.
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08-22-2013, 12:01 PM | #159 |
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Wait..what exactly is going on here?
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08-22-2013, 02:31 PM | #161 |
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It doesn't matter how well it works, I've had my DCT for about a year now and it's just so boring compared to the three manual BMWs I've had even though the 335is itself is such a sweet car.
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08-22-2013, 02:40 PM | #162 |
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I have a 6MT 335i... I couldn't care less what anyone else drives. We should be driving whatever makes us happy. This whole bullshit "You're a lesser man because of blah blah blah" is just that... bullshit.. We own BMWs, and are part of the forums, so we're all pretty close in enthusiasm levels so far. So why does it even matter? BMW isn't going to get rid of the MT anytime soon. So this is another mute issue.
I'm use to this kind of clumsy, short minded, hair balled attitudes from low rider community, I didn't expect it here. Wishful thinking I guess. Now, on to the point of this thread..... I hope they (M3/M4) sound better in real life. They probably do, but in reality, if you have the money to buy one, you're most likely going to put an exhaust on the damned thing anyways. Personally, I still want to know what the engine is going to be. I can work with the exhaust (to an extent) from there.
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08-22-2013, 03:04 PM | #164 | |
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Heel-toe pride level > DCT pride level DCT performance >> Human performance
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08-22-2013, 03:12 PM | #165 | |
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DCT can skip intermediate gears with fast paddle/stick actuation. DCT can force neutral. But there is never a really good reason to do so. If you have to look at your MT to see what gear you are in, you probably need a lot more MT experience... Just sayin'
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08-22-2013, 03:17 PM | #167 |
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Driven a E92 M3 6 MT I can say it was the wrong choice.
The M-DCT with shorter gearing was a much better ride then the too long geared 6MT It`s a good thing BMW let the customers decide what they think is right for their way of driving fun. I only do hope this time BMW does a better job on the M4 6MT Either way, choose your poison But choose wisely |
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Seems that BMW took note of the goings-on on the Internet:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/go/futur...l-transmission
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1) When I'm driving around in 2nd or 3rd gear and I want to coast to a red light, what I would normally do in a manual is shift to neutral and coast. With DCT, do I have to upshift until I stop feeling the engine braking? I ask this because the ride was super-harsh for me (esp. not being used to DCT) on low gear driving around the city. 2) On a DCT, if you downshift near the redline (say, redlining at 4 and then accidentally downshifting), what happens? |
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08-22-2013, 05:25 PM | #170 |
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I do not know why everyone is complaining about the M4 exhaust note. When I got my e90 M3 the exhaust was whisper quiet! The only sound that I was hearing was the engine scream which was fantastic. It was a let down that's for sure with the oem stock exhaust. So I quickly added an exhaust and the sound came alive on my brand new M3.
In the videos the M4 exhaust sounds louder than the oem stock e9x M3 exhaust for sure. With going aftermarket this is not an issue. Not sure why people are bashing this car. At least you can hear the M4 exhaust. In my M3 I could not hear anything with the windows down until I went after market.
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08-22-2013, 06:10 PM | #172 | |
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Why don't you buy a Google car ? Their car does it all for you: steering, braking, gear shifting. It works really well so why would anybody still want a car which you have to drive yourself ? Get my point ? |
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08-22-2013, 06:37 PM | #173 |
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The M-DCT M3 still has a smaller brake pedal than a 335is with DCT.. the M-DCT just has an invisible third pedal
I do think manual will be tbe best choice for the new triple turbo engine... just hope it has better gearing |
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08-22-2013, 06:57 PM | #174 | |
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Funny how the automotive rags still call the DCT an "auto". Sometimes perception = reality.
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08-22-2013, 07:27 PM | #175 |
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I love the way the M3 looks. I know the M4 is the new thing, but the arches in the rear to me just look so amazing with 4 doors.
Does sound a bit e46 m3 though.
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Seriously, to say that the DCT can do almost what a MT can do in terms of skipping gears and burnouts is such a wannabe statement. And I do like to pop it in neutral when I'm coasting for 1/4 mile. Why waste gas? |
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