Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio

[brava09]

Originally Posted by Ebolo

Not a company I'm familiar with!

What a shame...it says you're not a proper petrolhead until you owned an Alfa Romeo, yet you can't spell it properly

I owned an Alfa Romeo 147 ten years ago

[brava09]

Originally Posted by Ebolo

lol It would have helped if they were selling Alfas in Canada though!

come on, you can manage to get one if you really want to be a proper petrolhead

[ASAP]

Not a chance... not after seeing it run.

[Blksnowflake]

Originally Posted by BMW M3 CRT

Ferrari engine with Ferrari aerodynamics = 7.43min

It's not a Ferrari engine as in supplied by....it is just Ferrari tuned from what has been released.
Not sure why it's hard to believe that it's that fast, it has 500 plus horses, active aero and and very light.
The above video wasn't for time, manufacturers have special block times dedicated for them just for recording laps and data.

I've decide I don't care anyway, I'm never running my car at the 'ring nor am I coming even remotely close to pushing my car to where I will be fighting for tenths of seconds at a track. I just pick the car I like that happens to be fast enough.....fast enough to please me.

[shu5892001]

family sedan matched 997 gt3 rs time lol

[ASAP]

At least alfa was smart enougg to use their own driver not like the morons at bmw that decided to let sport auto run it and get a sub par time.

[dkhm3]

entirely possible.

nice looking car. much nicer curves than the c63 or the ats-v. makes those other 2 cars look... ordinary.

[Inablur]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

No doubt - everyone knows that should properly be Alpha Raw Mayo!

Fixed

[BMW M3 CRT]

Originally Posted by Blksnowflake

It's not a Ferrari engine as in supplied by....it is just Ferrari tuned from what has been released.

From what has been released you are right ... but beleave it or not, in reality its an real Ferrari engine, developed for the Giulia QV and the comming new entre model named Ferrari Dino.

[solstice]

Nice! The only M3 competitor I'm going to bother driving of what is presented this far, not because it's really fast around the ring but because it's the only overall car that interests me, the rest all have some big dis-qualifiers. But I'll likely be so turned off by the dealership that I'll walk out before getting to the car...BMW does offer a hard to beat package with the M3, pricing with ED, backup from dealer and corporate, quality etc, etc. they make it hard to leave. Alfa has a lot to prove to become a real threat even if the car itself seem very cool, when new at least...

[JMN]

Aren't the record runs still banned @ ring?

[EfEightyM3]

Originally Posted by ASAP

At least alfa was smart enougg to use their own driver not like the morons at bmw that decided to let sport auto run it and get a sub par time.

This doesnt make sense since Sport Auto times are always slower than manufacturer times. That needs to be taken into consideration.

Aside from that, BMW has never really been that fast on track with any car they've built, especially the Ring where the only recently broke 8 mins a lap while most of the big boys have been doing it for decades. The m4 in particular hasnt shown to put down very good laps times, at least not for its weight and hp.

Looks like Alfa is bringing it right to them the way Merc and Caddy are.

[dlk001]

It has 397kW according to the same source.

[solstice]

"Aside from that, BMW has never really been that fast on track with any car they've built"

Taken that BMW has never purpose built a road going sports car from the ground up other than the M1 I'd say they've done well. You usually see more BMWs on the track than any of it's competitors. From what I see of the latest generations I think it's a fair guess that it will remain like this for a long time. BMW has a target on it's back and every luxury car manufacturer wants beat the M3 and M5 on the ring, do you think this is because they never been particularly fast or because they are benchmarks in their segments?

[ASAP]

This video needs to come soon, but what makes it weirder is that I thought manufacturers couldn't run timed laps.

[DocWeatherington]

Originally Posted by EfEightyM3

This doesnt make sense since Sport Auto times are always slower than manufacturer times. That needs to be taken into consideration.

Aside from that, BMW has never really been that fast on track with any car they've built, especially the Ring where the only recently broke 8 mins a lap while most of the big boys have been doing it for decades. The m4 in particular hasnt shown to put down very good laps times, at least not for its weight and hp.

Looks like Alfa is bringing it right to them the way Merc and Caddy are...then again a claim is a claim, just like BMW claiming the M4 weighed 3306 lbs, when its in fact a good 300 lbs more than that.

Yeah but that is with a full tank of gas a tons of options. It is still the lightest in the class.. and BMW probably can find more weight to cut

I see the Alfa coming in at the same weight with all full tank and options.. just going to have 105 more HP

[S65V8]

An interesting competitor, not sure if I actually like the way it looks though, especially from the back. It's tidy enough, but seems japanese to me, madza 6ish or Lexus.

The first time I saw this car on a "Cars to Watch for in 2016" list, I thought from the back it was the new Lexus F series sedan of some kind, given those angled quad pipes and the taillight styling.

Really wish they thought of making it more unique like the styling from the 4C Competizone (round tails etc.), really more Alfa esk.

[EfEightyM3]

Originally Posted by solstice

"Aside from that, BMW has never really been that fast on track with any car they've built"

Taken that BMW has never purpose built a road going sports car from the ground up other than the M1 I'd say they've done well. You usually see more BMWs on the track than any of it's competitors. From what I see of the latest generations I think it's a fair guess that it will remain like this for a long time. BMW has a target on it's back and every luxury car manufacturer wants beat the M3 and M5 on the ring, do you think this is because they never been particularly fast or because they are benchmarks in their segments?

Saying they are benchmarks in their segments isn't saying much since the competition in those two segments has never been all that strong...up until the last couple years. Once outside those segments, they get crushed.

I'd also argue that their GTS models are pretty hardcore, they've just been utter failures.

[adc]

The upcoming ZCP will likely do a 7:45-47 on street tires anyway, the GTS is probably going to be a low 7:30's car, and the CSL is anybody's guess.

I certainly hope that the Giulia will be better than the M3, so I have a reason to get one when my current lease ends. I hope it forces BMW to improve the M3 so that in the end, we the drivers win.

[basscadet]

I want to know what tires are on this car and what, if any, factory bullshit massaging (aka, "pulling a GM") has happened.

That aside, this Alfa is the most exciting newcomer to this market since Cadillac brought the CTS-V to the table in 2009. The new C-class is ugly and the ATS-V is...well...look at it. But Italy knows how to make good cars and this thing is SUPER EXCITING.

[BMW M3 CRT]

Is anyone remembering the sound of some F8x testcars of you hear the new Giulia QV !?

[G4BR13L]

Originally Posted by adc

I certainly hope that the Giulia will be better than the M3, so I have a reason to get one when my current lease ends. I hope it forces BMW to improve the M3 so that in the end, we the drivers win.

If you think that a better job can be done you cannot blame BMW but you should blame the different governments and their low emission laws. Because if it were not for these laws the cars would have been a sh*tload better but not ecological enough. It takes years and years to engineer a car and comparing the new Alfa that has not been released yet with a car such as the M4 by the time the Alfa is released is already 2 years old is like comparing apples to oranges.

People will never be happy and they always want more and better and they want it now but this is not how the economy works.