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      05-17-2021, 05:24 AM   #7415
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I went with Chalk deviated stitching.

Today I looked at two 2021 992 Carrera S's. One in Lava Orange (?) and the other in Chalk. The Lava Orange was a dealer demo car that was actually for sale while the Chalk was an ordered car tucked away in their service bay. The Chalk car had SPASM and I didn't notice any discernible difference between it and the PASM-only equipped Lava Orange car. I ended up removing SPASM from my build after seeing the two cars. I also removed unlimited Apple CarPlay after playing around with it in my Corolla.
You should make your decision on SPASM on how you want the car to drive, not how it looks.
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I most definitely will not no longer spending my money on a company who can't take comments heartedly , next stop Tesla, don't even care how the egg looks, they don't their shit bat shit crazy like these Germans. I really do see the new G's really flying of the shelves that I've yet to see on on the road with the buck toothed grill or the new owners come out at night so they can save their own embarrassment.

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I went with Chalk deviated stitching.

Today I looked at two 2021 992 Carrera S's. One in Lava Orange (?) and the other in Chalk. The Lava Orange was a dealer demo car that was actually for sale while the Chalk was an ordered car tucked away in their service bay. The Chalk car had SPASM and I didn't notice any discernible difference between it and the PASM-only equipped Lava Orange car. I ended up removing SPASM from my build after seeing the two cars. I also removed unlimited Apple CarPlay after playing around with it in my Corolla.
You should make your decision on SPASM on how you want the car to drive, not how it looks.
I agree completely, but without many/any options to drive.....and thus, no point of reference, it's hard to really decide which direction is best with regards to SPASM. The 911 I drove weeks ago was a 991.2 without SPASM and the Lava Orange 992 didn't have SPASM either. I loved the way the 991.2 drove, so that's my only reference point. My connect has an AeroKitted base 992 without SPASM, so the only thing his car was good for was confirming that, A) I love the AeroKit, B) the base interior is unsatisfactory and C) the base stereo was sufficient......at the time. I heard the BOSE stereo in the Lava Orange car yesterday and immediately came home, ditched the Sport Design side skirts and optioned the BOSE.
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You should make your decision on SPASM on how you want the car to drive, not how it looks.
If one has ever driven older P cars with M030, he or she would know not to spec in any other way than sport suspension. Looks flush as well.
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I agree completely, but without many/any options to drive.....and thus, no point of reference, it's hard to really decide which direction is best with regards to SPASM. The 911 I drove weeks ago was a 991.2 without SPASM and the Lava Orange 992 didn't have SPASM either. I loved the way the 991.2 drove, so that's my only reference point. My connect has an AeroKitted base 992 without SPASM, so the only thing his car was good for was confirming that, A) I love the AeroKit, B) the base interior is unsatisfactory and C) the base stereo was sufficient......at the time. I heard the BOSE stereo in the Lava Orange car yesterday and immediately came home, ditched the Sport Design side skirts and optioned the BOSE.
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If one has ever driven older P cars with M030, he or she would know not to spec in any other way than sport suspension. Looks flush as well.
Regarding base PASM vs Sport-PASM, having driven both, I personally don't believe there is a bad choice per se, it is really about the intended use. For a weekend canyon carver or a car that will see the track more often than not, then S-PASM is likely the better choice. For daily driver or a road trip car, the base PASM is probably the better choice.
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You should make your decision on SPASM on how you want the car to drive, not how it looks.
If one has ever driven older P cars with M030, he or she would know not to spec in any other way than sport suspension. Looks flush as well.
Flush in what way? There was nothing more "flush" about the SPASM equipped car I saw yesterday. Like I said in my earlier post, there was no discernible visual difference I could see between the PASM and SPASM cars. Your statement may be applicable to older cars, but definitely not the 992. Both cars had about a two finger gap.


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I agree completely, but without many/any options to drive.....and thus, no point of reference, it's hard to really decide which direction is best with regards to SPASM. The 911 I drove weeks ago was a 991.2 without SPASM and the Lava Orange 992 didn't have SPASM either. I loved the way the 991.2 drove, so that's my only reference point. My connect has an AeroKitted base 992 without SPASM, so the only thing his car was good for was confirming that, A) I love the AeroKit, B) the base interior is unsatisfactory and C) the base stereo was sufficient......at the time. I heard the BOSE stereo in the Lava Orange car yesterday and immediately came home, ditched the Sport Design side skirts and optioned the BOSE.
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If one has ever driven older P cars with M030, he or she would know not to spec in any other way than sport suspension. Looks flush as well.
Regarding base PASM vs Sport-PASM, having driven both, I personally don't believe there is a bad choice per se, it is really about the intended use. For a weekend canyon carver or a car that will see the track more often than not, then S-PASM is likely the better choice. For daily driver or a road trip car, the base PASM is probably the better choice.
I feel like my 911 will be used more for weekend jaunts and occasional track days. It definitely won't be a daily driver.
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I feel like my 911 will be used more for weekend jaunts and occasional track days. It definitely won't be a daily driver.
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Flush in what way? There was nothing more "flush" about the SPASM equipped car I saw yesterday. Like I said in my earlier post, there was no discernible visual difference I could see between the PASM and SPASM cars. Your statement may be applicable to older cars, but definitely not the 992. Both cars had about a two finger gap.




I feel like my 911 will be used more for weekend jaunts and occasional track days. It definitely won't be a daily driver.
I would opt for the S-PASM if that is the case, if you dont mind the harsher ride.

S-PASM is 10mm lower on the 992 vs 20mm on the 991, so it’s not as obvious visually.
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I agree completely, but without many/any options to drive.....and thus, no point of reference, it's hard to really decide which direction is best with regards to SPASM. The 911 I drove weeks ago was a 991.2 without SPASM and the Lava Orange 992 didn't have SPASM either. I loved the way the 991.2 drove, so that's my only reference point. My connect has an AeroKitted base 992 without SPASM, so the only thing his car was good for was confirming that, A) I love the AeroKit, B) the base interior is unsatisfactory and C) the base stereo was sufficient......at the time. I heard the BOSE stereo in the Lava Orange car yesterday and immediately came home, ditched the Sport Design side skirts and optioned the BOSE.
I couldn't test drive a car w/ SPASM. I thought the regular PASM had excellent ride quality and handling. Ended up with SPASM in my build b/c it came with the manual sport pkg. Kind of moot for me as I plan on getting the Bilstein EVO coilovers once it's available. If you're going to lower the car, Bilstein EVO is perfect b/c Bilstein designed the stock suspension and these coilover will seamlessly work w/ PASM/SPASM.

Good call on the Bose.

Check out pictures of more aerokit cars w/ the side skirts. IMO, side skirts look great, particularly with the aerokit. Aerokit cars w/o sideskirts (to me at least) feels like it's missing something. If you ditch SPASM, sideskirts will also make the car look slightly lower. You can get them later from suncoast but they aren't cheap and will also have to be painted... might be harder to match chalk.
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I couldn't test drive a car w/ SPASM. I thought the regular PASM had excellent ride quality and handling. Ended up with SPASM in my build b/c it came with the manual sport pkg. Kind of moot for me as I plan on getting the Bilstein EVO coilovers once it's available. If you're going to lower the car, Bilstein EVO is perfect b/c Bilstein designed the stock suspension and these coilover will seamlessly work w/ PASM/SPASM.

Good call on the Bose.

Check out pictures of more aerokit cars w/ the side skirts. IMO, side skirts look great, particularly with the aerokit. Aerokit cars w/o sideskirts (to me at least) feels like it's missing something. If you ditch SPASM, sideskirts will also make the car look slightly lower. You can get them later from suncoast but they aren't cheap and will also have to be painted... might be harder to match chalk.
Then why did you opt for the Sport Package?

You could have ordered the Sport Chrono and Sport Exhaust separately...
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I agree completely, but without many/any options to drive.....and thus, no point of reference, it's hard to really decide which direction is best with regards to SPASM. The 911 I drove weeks ago was a 991.2 without SPASM and the Lava Orange 992 didn't have SPASM either. I loved the way the 991.2 drove, so that's my only reference point. My connect has an AeroKitted base 992 without SPASM, so the only thing his car was good for was confirming that, A) I love the AeroKit, B) the base interior is unsatisfactory and C) the base stereo was sufficient......at the time. I heard the BOSE stereo in the Lava Orange car yesterday and immediately came home, ditched the Sport Design side skirts and optioned the BOSE.
I couldn't test drive a car w/ SPASM. I thought the regular PASM had excellent ride quality and handling. Ended up with SPASM in my build b/c it came with the manual sport pkg. Kind of moot for me as I plan on getting the Bilstein EVO coilovers once it's available. If you're going to lower the car, Bilstein EVO is perfect b/c Bilstein designed the stock suspension and these coilover will seamlessly work w/ PASM/SPASM.

Good call on the Bose.

Check out pictures of more aerokit cars w/ the side skirts. IMO, side skirts look great, particularly with the aerokit. Aerokit cars w/o sideskirts (to me at least) feels like it's missing something. If you ditch SPASM, sideskirts will also make the car look slightly lower. You can get them later from suncoast but they aren't cheap and will also have to be painted... might be harder to match chalk.
I've watched a ton of videos and I kind of like it better without the side skirts. With the side skirts optioned, they appear ever so slightly lower than the front lip (...when viewed from the side) and the rear bumper still has the matte black lower portion, making it appear higher in the back. Without the Sport Design side skirts the lower portion is matte black and it matches perfectly with the rear and it gives the front lip the appearance of being lower.





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Then why did you opt for the Sport Package?

You could have ordered the Sport Chrono and Sport Exhaust separately...
At first, I thought manuals all came w/ sport pkg and didn't realize I could ala carte the manual. But once I realized it, I decided to keep the sport pkg b/c I like lowered cars in general and I knew I'd likely drive around w/ stock suspension for a while before I lowered it. I also figured if I went the cheaper route and lowered w/ a HAS kit or springs, it would be better to start w/ the firmer and shorter SPASM dampers.

Plus the cost difference btw choosing the sport pkg w/ manual vs. just manual w/ sport chrono and exhaust as ala carte options only saved $440. Not worth it to me to leave off SPASM to save $440.

Can't believe how much porsche nickel and dimes every option down to junk like $190 for colored porsche crests on the rim center caps or the leather covered cup holder for $390.
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Then why did you opt for the Sport Package?

You could have ordered the Sport Chrono and Sport Exhaust separately...
At first, I thought manuals all came w/ sport pkg and didn't realize I could ala carte the manual. But once I realized it, I decided to keep the sport pkg b/c I like lowered cars in general and I knew I'd likely drive around w/ stock suspension for a while before I lowered it. I also figured if I went the cheaper route and lowered w/ a HAS kit or springs, it would be better to start w/ the firmer and shorter SPASM dampers.

Plus the cost difference btw choosing the sport pkg w/ manual vs. just manual w/ sport chrono and exhaust as ala carte options only saved $440. Not worth it to me to leave off SPASM to save $440.

Can't believe how much porsche nickel and dimes every option down to junk like $190 for colored porsche crests on the rim center caps or the leather covered cup holder for $390.
Agreed on the nickel and dime approach. The colored crests, for example, should be a no cost option.
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Agreed on the nickel and dime approach. The colored crests, for example, should be a no cost option.
Seriously! Can't believe how much cheaper BMW options are like the $3800 carbon bucket seats or the FREE black or red brake calipers, FREE carbon roof, etc.
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Agreed on the nickel and dime approach. The colored crests, for example, should be a no cost option.
Seriously! Can't believe how much cheaper BMW options are like the $3800 carbon bucket seats or the FREE black or red brake calipers, FREE carbon roof, etc.
....or how much leather you get for the full leather price, or the cheaper price for custom paint, etc. BMW truly spoils. Buying this 992 CS makes a loaded M3/M4 feel cheap to acquire in comparison.
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Flush in what way? There was nothing more "flush" about the SPASM equipped car I saw yesterday. Like I said in my earlier post, there was no discernible visual difference I could see between the PASM and SPASM cars. Your statement may be applicable to older cars, but definitely not the 992. Both cars had about a two finger gap.




I feel like my 911 will be used more for weekend jaunts and occasional track days. It definitely won't be a daily driver.

Baller status!! I'm also considering a 911 to be my next vehicle..
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Flush in what way? There was nothing more "flush" about the SPASM equipped car I saw yesterday. Like I said in my earlier post, there was no discernible visual difference I could see between the PASM and SPASM cars. Your statement may be applicable to older cars, but definitely not the 992. Both cars had about a two finger gap.




I feel like my 911 will be used more for weekend jaunts and occasional track days. It definitely won't be a daily driver.

Baller status!! I'm also considering a 911 to be my next vehicle..
Do it bro! Having no wife, no children and no credit card debt makes most things affordable......if we can call any Porsche that. Lol!
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[QUOTE=Sedan_Clan;27598365]Do it bro! Having no wife, no children and no credit card debt makes most things affordable......if we can call any Porsche that. Lol!

Very nice!! Just wanna be like Mike!! lol
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To bring this thread back on topic, I stumbled on these pictures on the G8X forum. Something is really off with the G82's overall front and rear proportions. The rear wheels look so puny relative to the front. And no, it's not just the staggered wheel diameters because we do not get this effect with the M4[SIZE="1"]GTS[/SIZE] and M4cs. When you stare at it long enough, it almost seems like the front and the rear of two different cars were photoshopped together. Reminds me of that old FWD add series BMW made. And the fake swan neck rear wing
The wheel gap in the rear seems to be much greater in the rear than the front.
I think slightly more than the M3 too.
My god that line between the rear wheel and rear door is awful.
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