What part is this, and is it supposed to look like this?

Thescout13 · 08-22-2018, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TheONE24

The dealer tried to just send me an oil cooler. I mentioned that it didn't have the shield. They offered the shield. I asked about the bumper and they would not do that. I then explained for the second time the shield attaches to the bumper and the bumper attachment holes are pulled through. No response. I then let them know that at this time I would need to have a dealer do the work due to it already being marked as wrecked and having diminished returns, or just let me return the car. Outside of that I would be contacting a consumer fraud attorney. They essentially said let's go that route.

Yeah that sucks. Make sure you hire a local attorney in their state.

BzsBimmer · 08-22-2018, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheONE24

The dealer tried to just send me an oil cooler. I mentioned that it didn't have the shield. They offered the shield. I asked about the bumper and they would not do that. I then explained for the second time the shield attaches to the bumper and the bumper attachment holes are pulled through. No response. I then let them know that at this time I would need to have a dealer do the work due to it already being marked as wrecked and having diminished returns, or just let me return the car. Outside of that I would be contacting a consumer fraud attorney. They essentially said let's go that route.

They’re hoping you’re bluffing. Hopefully you have the means and backing to go through with it. Attitudes usually change once they see evidence of a lawsuit served.

TheONE24 · 08-22-2018, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BzsBimmer

They’re hoping you’re bluffing. Hopefully you have the means and backing to go through with it. Attitudes usually change once they see evidence of a lawsuit served.

Most cases of this nature in VA from what I see are done on contingency. I'm pretty certain I've got a solid case and when I hire an attorney they are going to want to get paid. If they don't win I'm out nothing but time. If I win the lawyer will get their costs paid and hopefully I will get enough to buy the exact combo I have again but new.

FAKE__NEWS · 08-23-2018, 11:07 AM

If it's in Northern VA, I used Thomas Breeden out of Manassas two years ago against a local Ford dealership that sold me a "new car." Upon delivery, the car had almost 300 miles, a different VIN than I signed the agreement on (all other paperwork had the VIN of the vehicle that was delivered to me) and hail damage. I left the car there and they refused to do anything with the deposit I had put down which was in the mid 4 figures until they were served.

TheONE24 · 08-23-2018, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FAKE__NEWS

If it's in Northern VA, I used Thomas Breeden out of Manassas two years ago against a local Ford dealership that sold me a "new car." Upon delivery, the car had almost 300 miles, a different VIN than I signed the agreement on (all other paperwork had the VIN of the vehicle that was delivered to me) and hail damage. I left the car there and they refused to do anything with the deposit I had put down which was in the mid 4 figures until they were served.

This is more towards the northern side of VA. I saw him pop up and did some research on him and the reviews were pretty mixed. Would you recommend him?

FAKE__NEWS · 08-23-2018, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TheONE24

This is more towards the northern side of VA. I saw him pop up and did some research on him and the reviews were pretty mixed. Would you recommend him?

Absolutely would for a case like this!

Poiseuille · 08-23-2018, 03:48 PM

I have nothing at all against the attorney that FN recommended, but I would suggest you also start a thread on the mid-Atlantic regional subforum. Looks like about 80% of those guys are in Virginia. Explain this whole story and see if any of those people have suggestions for you. I wouldn't be afraid to name names, either. This whole thing totally sucks OP.

FAKE__NEWS · 08-24-2018, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Poiseuille

I have nothing at all against the attorney that FN recommended, but I would suggest you also start a thread on the mid-Atlantic regional subforum. Looks like about 80% of those guys are in Virginia. Explain this whole story and see if any of those people have suggestions for you. I wouldn't be afraid to name names, either. This whole thing totally sucks OP.

I'm in Northern Virginia. I do agree, though, that somebody in there would probably know better, I've only been in this area for two years.

I'm also very interested in who the dealer is...I have an idea but still interested.

TheONE24 · 08-26-2018, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by FAKE__NEWS

I'm in Northern Virginia. I do agree, though, that somebody in there would probably know better, I've only been in this area for two years.

I'm also very interested in who the dealer is...I have an idea but still interested.

Looks like they just listed 2 more M4's for sale. I have a consultations with 2 different firms Monday/Tuesday and will see what they say. If they don't think it matters I will put the dealer on blast. I hope they don't tell me to park the car until this is over. My previous BMW goes to it's new owner on Tuesday, which would leave me borrowing my parents spare old beaten up minivan, lol.

Hachima · 08-26-2018, 11:32 PM

A strong case would be the car was delivered at X miles and it is currently still at X miles because the lack of the cooling guard is a huge risk and the car is not in a condition that the car can not be safely used at all until it is repaired. A weak case would be you bought the car at X miles and it now has X+1000 miles on it since you are driving it regardless of the issue.

TheONE24 · 08-28-2018, 09:28 AM

So far it's not looking good. The only real saving grace is if anyone can pull previous Manheim condition reports for previous sales to prove the damage was disclosed to the seller who purchased it from BMW financial through auction.

SinatraM · 08-28-2018, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TheONE24

So far it's not looking good. The only real saving grace is if anyone can pull previous Manheim condition reports for previous sales to prove the damage was disclosed to the seller who purchased it from BMW financial through auction.

only the buyer can look at the CR report since it's already sold. (dealer)

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FAKE__NEWS Second Lieutenant 64 Rep 204 Posts Drives: F80 M3 Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: NoVA iTrader: (3)	If it's in Northern VA, I used Thomas Breeden out of Manassas two years ago against a local Ford dealership that sold me a "new car." Upon delivery, the car had almost 300 miles, a different VIN than I signed the agreement on (all other paperwork had the VIN of the vehicle that was delivered to me) and hail damage. I left the car there and they refused to do anything with the deposit I had put down which was in the mid 4 figures until they were served.
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Poiseuille Brigadier General 5393 Rep 3,737 Posts Drives: 2016 M4 DCT Tanzanite/Amaro Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Princeton iTrader: (0) Garage List [0.00] [10.00]	I have nothing at all against the attorney that FN recommended, but I would suggest you also start a thread on the mid-Atlantic regional subforum. Looks like about 80% of those guys are in Virginia. Explain this whole story and see if any of those people have suggestions for you. I wouldn't be afraid to name names, either. This whole thing totally sucks OP.
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Hachima Second Lieutenant 155 Rep 272 Posts Drives: 2018 M3 ZCP Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: USA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 BMW M3 ZCP [0.00] 2023 BMW M5C [0.00] 2022 BMW X3M [0.00] 2016 BMW 340Xi [0.00]	A strong case would be the car was delivered at X miles and it is currently still at X miles because the lack of the cooling guard is a huge risk and the car is not in a condition that the car can not be safely used at all until it is repaired. A weak case would be you bought the car at X miles and it now has X+1000 miles on it since you are driving it regardless of the issue.
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TheONE24 Private First Class 41 Rep 164 Posts Drives: 2016 M4/F82 MGM/SO Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Oklahoma iTrader: (0) Garage List 2016 BMW M4 [0.00] 09 BMW E92 [0.00]	So far it's not looking good. The only real saving grace is if anyone can pull previous Manheim condition reports for previous sales to prove the damage was disclosed to the seller who purchased it from BMW financial through auction. __________________ 2016 F82/M4 DCT. MGM/SO Ext. leather. All the buttons.
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