BMW M4 GTS - what are you willing to give up? 3 colors, no rear seat, 100kg reduction

Mavus · 06-01-2015, 04:00 PM

Sat in M4 two days ago and felt like I was in a pick up truck, the hood is so high I couldn't stand it. I really don't get current BMW product strategy. Just design a proper sports car already or loose your enthusiasts.

GT350 pressure ... a little bit maybe?

8600RPM · 06-01-2015, 04:02 PM

That's because seating position is nice and low. E92 was too high and they addressed that

Blindside_137 · 06-01-2015, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RingMeister01

No only one color is a frozen

This makes me feel better

Frozen Black
Fire Orange
Imola Red

would be my hopes

dgp · 06-01-2015, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mose121

Can we please just get a zcp competition package already!!!

That' what I am waiting for too...hopefully released this year!!

kardboard · 06-01-2015, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Blindside_137

So the three colors are only frozens?

Seems like a bad move IMO, I feel like they have been played out for a decade now.

I'm thinking he meant the colors the frozen are based on. Frozen Red is Sakhir Orange for example. Frozen white is Mineral white? Im guessing a black, white, and blue option, maybe red instead of black.

raysspl · 06-01-2015, 04:11 PM

How about giving up nothing.

FrankiE90 · 06-01-2015, 04:12 PM

I would not need door panels - nor ac nor sunroof nor electric seats nor 20inch wheels.

any extra wires for in cabin I can do without. Can also do without carpeting cabin and boot area- custom floor would be amazing. electronics cannot live without - speakers up front only.

can live without dash as well.
is that going to far.

nicknaz · 06-01-2015, 04:14 PM

Scott, I personally would be ok with the basic level of amenities in 991 GT3 RS or Viper ACR

DandyKing · 06-01-2015, 04:14 PM

My car is basically stock just added 19s. Yeah i want the performance everything else is just a bonus.

CanAutM3 · 06-01-2015, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 8600RPM

The rear seats are so damn light in the f8x platform that I am surprised they bother deleting them. The e92 rear seats were heavy as crap with the fold down section being super solid and heavy. The bottom cushions were light as a feather. However the f8x fold down piece are super duper light. Same with the front seats. You get a lot of light weight stuff in the stock car this time around.

Really looking forward to seeing what they cutout to save weight especially given they are adding a cage and more engine pieces.

The roll cage is likely an incentive to forego the rear seats

nbennettksu · 06-01-2015, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckthis

I don't care about the niceties.....will it be offered with a damned third pedal?????

history will probably repeat its self, and no

RingMeister01 · 06-01-2015, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kardboard

I'm thinking he meant the colors the frozen are based on. Frozen Red is Sakhir Orange for example. Frozen white is Mineral white? Im guessing a black, white, and blue option, maybe red instead of black.

Nope

Powaup · 06-01-2015, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by yousefnjr

Sounds like ROW gets those fancy OLED tails...

... I wonder how difficult to retrofit...

+laser head lights

CanAutM3 · 06-01-2015, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RingMeister01

No only one color is a frozen

Scott seems pretty clear that all three color options will be frozen...

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

You can have your beverage in three flavours as long as you don't mind them "Frozen". Any additional flavours I am afraid you will have to "Let it go..."

dmk08 · 06-01-2015, 04:28 PM

Sounds cool but for a street car give me an Individual M3/M4 with upcoming ZCP.

rjd598 · 06-01-2015, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RingMeister01

No only one color is a frozen

scott should correct his post then to avoid confusion.

Blindside_137 · 06-01-2015, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CanAutM3

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Originally Posted by RingMeister01

No only one color is a frozen

Scott seems pretty clear that all three color options will be frozen...

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

You can have your beverage in three flavours as long as you don't mind them "Frozen". Any additional flavours I am afraid you will have to "Let it go..."

I'm thinking ringmeister is somehow included in some circle of trust regarding GTS info and scott worded the color teaser incorrectly

afadeev · 06-01-2015, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Before you contemplate on purchasing an M4 GTS. You should ask yourself do you need rear seats? Can you live with only three specific colours? Are you supportive that the roll cage will be optional and will you be ok with US GTS models forgoing something that will be available on European models but not on USA models due to legislation?

And important for Americans? Can you live without the luxuries? As you get none. If you can answer these questions then you will receive a car that best to define is all about the three i's... Individuality, intimacy and Intensity.

Easy question to answer: no, no way, no how, and hell no!

The above answer will hold for 99% of the people seriously in the market for a dual purpose sub-$100K DD/track car like M3/4.
We want to give up nothing, get more power, and go arm-chair racing with a beer in one hand and you know what in another. Any questions ?

Those who are in the market for dedicated $150+K track car, are likely shopping for a GT3 or P1. But it will be nice to have M3-GTS out mixing it up on track, as Z4GT3 is getting long in the tooth....

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Originally Posted by myzmak

....despite all the "I'm holding out for a GTS" posting around here, I really don't think more than 1% of the F82 buying public would really appreciate/want this car.

Can't wait to see it in action, though, AND I hope that at least some of the tech/plans get worked into future cars (ahem - water injection - ahem)

Amen to that.

The only reason for GTS is so that BMW can homologate it for entry into various racing series. Sounds good enough reason for me.

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RingMeister01 · 06-01-2015, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

The BMW M4 Moto GP Safety Car is in some cases the BMW M4 GTS Concept Car if we remove the livery, keep the M Performance add ons and change the front and rear lights (Market Specific).
Although a more production-ready car will be unveiled at Pebble Beach in August. And that includes Water Injection. This is the individuality aspect its not just an M4 with more performance and fancy equipment as some who will never drive it will state. It extends the possibilities of the M4 through further innovation to generate that performance and increased dynamic intensity.
Its the first step to show further possibilities in innovation that creates performance using sustainable technology.
The next phase has its genes in the BMW CSL Hommage. The clue is different cap shapes.

Surely they offer more than just the Safety car/M Performance aero.

V1.47fan · 06-01-2015, 04:59 PM

And SCOTT26, please, beg the guys in charge to make it sound like a proper sports car.

SCOTT26 · 06-01-2015, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RingMeister01

Surely they offer more than just the Safety car/M Performance aero.

Yes there is hidden stuff underneath different to the standard M4.
And on the body... Essentially around 100KG of reduction.

CanAutM3 · 06-01-2015, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Yes there is hidden stuff underneath different to the standard M4.
And on the body... Essentially around 100KG of reduction.

If they achieve that

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