Vargas B58 Coil Conversion

[GuyLedouche]

Originally Posted by NORAGRETS

Yes their customer service isn’t great lol no doubt.

I honestly think they make good stuff, if they weren’t dismissive they would be way better obviously.

Usually “V2” products end up being much better for reasons I don’t need to list. This felt like a “beta” version for sure.

I’m still kinda annoyed that Vargas straight up didn’t even offer to troubleshoot me they just said “return it” lol

I think it would be beneficial for them to do a little test on their product before unleashing it to the masses.

I have their splinelock sitting as a paperweight because I couldn’t find a reputable shop that would install it, I just took their CBC off after seeing the post about broken Chinese hardware, and I considered buying their valve cover but didn’t hear from them after asking some questions.

[NORAGRETS]

Originally Posted by GuyLedouche

I think it would be beneficial for them to do a little test on their product before unleashing it to the masses.

I have their splinelock sitting as a paperweight because I couldn’t find a reputable shop that would install it, I just took their CBC off after seeing the post about broken Chinese hardware, and I considered buying their valve cover but didn’t hear from them after asking some questions.

Yeah I mean I agree.

According to VTT:

[NORAGRETS]

Originally Posted by GuyLedouche

I think it would be beneficial for them to do a little test on their product before unleashing it to the masses.

I have their splinelock sitting as a paperweight because I couldn’t find a reputable shop that would install it, I just took their CBC off after seeing the post about broken Chinese hardware, and I considered buying their valve cover but didn’t hear from them after asking some questions.

I was also looking at their valve cover bc i hate the oem one. What were u asking them about it?

[GuyLedouche]

Originally Posted by NORAGRETS

I was also looking at their valve cover bc i hate the oem one. What were u asking them about it?

Pretty basic stuff like if they could provide a picture of one actually installed.

[NORAGRETS]

Originally Posted by GuyLedouche

Pretty basic stuff like if they could provide a picture of one actually installed.

Simple requirements like “do I need a special tune” or “gap your plugs to xx” would be acceptable “make sure you set your parameters to s58 coils” etc

[chetrickerman]

Originally Posted by NORAGRETS

Anyone that has done this: DO YOU NEED TO TUNE FOR THE COILS AND SPARKS?

I’ve read multiple different posts of people saying yes, and others saying no. I would think YES, but again, can’t find support for this literally anywhere.

Even worse, Vargas customer service is absolutely shit and they either don’t reply, or when they do they’re all high and mighty about it.

I can answer this definitively for you, No.

The dwell time adjustment is pretty small from the S55 stock map compared to the B58.

I have been running B58 coils for well over 2 years, it sounds like you dont have the longer spark plug boots, because my car ran noticeably smoother with the B58 coils, even at idle.

[Gossypiboma]

VTT is a known questionable company. I wouldn't trust buying a brick from them.

[NORAGRETS]

Originally Posted by Gossypiboma

VTT is a known questionable company. I wouldn't trust buying a brick from them.

Lololol

[wheela]

Originally Posted by NORAGRETS

Yeah I mean I agree.

According to VTT:

Wow, they responded to a report of an issue that they've had no reported issues... I wonder how many reported issues got that response???

Aren't they at least curious to find out why a paying customer is having trouble with a product that they sold?

[NORAGRETS]

Originally Posted by wheela

Wow, they responded to a report of an issue that they've had no reported issues... I wonder how many reported issues got that response???

Aren't they at least curious to find out why a paying customer is having trouble with a product that they sold?

This^^^^^is legit my exact thought process.

[NORAGRETS]

Originally Posted by chetrickerman

I can answer this definitively for you, No.

The dwell time adjustment is pretty small from the S55 stock map compared to the B58.

I have been running B58 coils for well over 2 years, it sounds like you dont have the longer spark plug boots, because my car ran noticeably smoother with the B58 coils, even at idle.

Ok, this result is EXACTLY what I wanted!

Tell me your secrets? Lol

Ok, VTT sent me the longer boots, which I used and installed per instructions. I’ve changed my own sparks for 13+ years in all my cars it’s not rocket science so I don’t think I missed anything. Also considering I did it literally 5 times last week, I def did it right lol.

The ONLY thing that I didn’t think of, that shouldn’t matter anyways, is that for whatever reason VTT boots didn’t work with Turner MS coils (again not a SUPER popular mod so idk if anyone has even tried that combo).

Smoother idle is what I wanted tbh. What’s ur setup? Did u have to adapt your tune at all? Betting you have nexys?

[ck_M3]

Originally Posted by chetrickerman

I can answer this definitively for you, No.

The dwell time adjustment is pretty small from the S55 stock map compared to the B58.

I have been running B58 coils for well over 2 years, it sounds like you dont have the longer spark plug boots, because my car ran noticeably smoother with the B58 coils, even at idle.

Also curious to know what your setup is for these B58 coils, please.

[DeezBluBallz]

https://nexsysmotorsport.com/n-s55-i...l-upgrade-kit/

Just buy this with the connectors, boom - done. These work. Been running them for awile.

[chetrickerman]

Originally Posted by NORAGRETS

Ok, this result is EXACTLY what I wanted!

Tell me your secrets? Lol

Ok, VTT sent me the longer boots, which I used and installed per instructions. I’ve changed my own sparks for 13+ years in all my cars it’s not rocket science so I don’t think I missed anything. Also considering I did it literally 5 times last week, I def did it right lol.

The ONLY thing that I didn’t think of, that shouldn’t matter anyways, is that for whatever reason VTT boots didn’t work with Turner MS coils (again not a SUPER popular mod so idk if anyone has even tried that combo).

Smoother idle is what I wanted tbh. What’s ur setup? Did u have to adapt your tune at all? Betting you have nexys?

Originally Posted by ck_M3

Also curious to know what your setup is for these B58 coils, please.

Yes I am using the nexus kit. It came with longer coil boots, but I did get rid of the PNP connectors and spliced the B58 connectors to my OEM harness.

[NORAGRETS]

Originally Posted by chetrickerman

Yes I am using the nexus kit. It came with longer coil boots, but I did get rid of the PNP connectors and spliced the B58 connectors to my OEM harness.

Nice looking single turbo setup u have there

[DeezBluBallz]

Originally Posted by NORAGRETS

S58? You mean B58?

S58, same thing as B58. I did S58 Dinan blue coils. You rip the boot off, and use the boot NXS provides in kit.

The B series style coil applies to the following engines: B36, B38, B46, B48, B58 and S58

[NORAGRETS]

BTW heres my original email to Vargas. I even "placed" plausible blame on myself, and just asked for help lol

[NORAGRETS]

Originally Posted by DeezBluBallz

S58, same thing as B58. I did S58 Dinan blue coils. You rip the boot off, and use the boot NXS provides in kit.

The B series style coil applies to the following engines: B36, B38, B46, B48, B58 and S58

Yes I realized that after I replied.

I mean exactly what I did...the install isnt rocket science.

Im gonna do this again with the Nexys kit and Dinan coils and see what happens...maybe in a few weeks tho. Gonna enjoy the thing for now lol

[Dsmdrew]

Dinan coils suck don't do it. Lot of people have had problems with them. Google it.I think there made by msd

[NORAGRETS]

Originally Posted by Dsmdrew

Dinan coils suck don't do it. Lot of people have had problems with them. Google it.

Just the B58?

[wheela]

Originally Posted by NORAGRETS

Just the B58?

For what it's worth, if/when I go down the b58 coil route, it will be with the nexsys kit and Eldor b58 coils; Eldors seem to be the strongest performers from the testing I've seen.

Edit: I thought your email to vtt looked completely reasonable.

[OCSPEED]

Originally Posted by DeezBluBallz

S58, same thing as B58. I did S58 Dinan blue coils. You rip the boot off, and use the boot NXS provides in kit.

The B series style coil applies to the following engines: B36, B38, B46, B48, B58 and S58

FWIW, I used the Nxy kit with their boots supplied and also bought Eldor coils. I had the same problems as OP described and just went back to stock.