Carbon brakes aren't covered by BMW's four-year maintenance plan

[Divexxtreme]

Originally Posted by Jockey

Pot, meet kettle

Okay then. Have a nice evening.

[modkrazy]

Originally Posted by VCP

Pay to play. I will gladly spend the $ when replacement is needed.

While I usually agree with this sentiment, here is a lot of pay for not a whole lot of play.

Only a fool is "glad" to spend his money.

[Divexxtreme]

Originally Posted by modkrazy

While I usually agree with this sentiment, here is a lot of pay for not a whole lot of play.

Only a fool is "glad" to spend his money.

I considered that as well. I mean, if I tracked the car and would benefit from the carbon brakes on the race track I'd probably keep them. But this is a street car for me, and I was only getting them for their rarity and weight. So to me, if they aren't covered, they are simply not worth the extra expense.

[shortseller]

My guess is...CCB sales will dictate warranty coverage at some point, ie if enough boxes don't get checked on new orders, BMW is sure to come back with a inclusive plan and even maybe a price drop. Got to pay for all that early trial stage costs somehow! 8K, sure!

[jc05e46m3]

Originally Posted by Jockey

Look champ, if you came out in your original post and said you called BMW and confirmed what was in the magazine, we wouldn't be having this discussion, but you didn't. Instead, you acted like you solely acted on what was written in an article.

Hence, why my first post in this thread. And now, I was able to extract more clarifying information from you, and more important information.

So you're welcome.

Originally Posted by Divexxtreme

Of if you had simply kept your nose out of a thread that you admit has absolutely nothing to do with you ("I don't care, I'm not ordering CCB")...we wouldn't be having this discussion. Champ.



I was actually on the phone with the dealer canceling my order when you posted your sarcastic reply. That's why I said you should call your dealer and ask them for yourself if you doubted the article, because I already knew what they were going to tell you. Thus far, the only thing you have extracted from me is my annoyance.

Originally Posted by gmcconn535

@Divexxtreme has to be extremely insecure!! His signature block includes over 15 cars and they have their penis size - I mean hp - listed too!! Are we supposed to be impressed?

Just another day in the neighborhood, my friend.

Originally Posted by Jockey

Yes, words like "champ" and "sally" and "exxtreme" (that's part of your name btw, don't know if you caught that) are really hurtful and I'm sorry for the trauma I have caused.

PS: according to your logic, I shouldn't post in the F8X forums (or any forums outside of 1addicts) either

lol, I seriously can't believe you had to explain that.

Originally Posted by Divexxtreme

Lol, yet you're the one name-calling like a child ("champ", "sally", "exxtreme"). Amazing.



Based on what's been posted in this thread thus far, it's fairly clear that you don't know enough to determine what's bogus or not, so it's probably best that you mind your own business in the future.

Bro, you're a clown.

[VCP]

HAHAHA, yes it does you well 6 feet under

Originally Posted by modkrazy

While I usually agree with this sentiment, here is a lot of pay for not a whole lot of play.

Only a fool is "glad" to spend his money.

[VCP]

Yes, mine will see extensive track time.

Originally Posted by Divexxtreme

I considered that as well. I mean, if I tracked the car and would benefit from the carbon brakes on the race track I'd probably keep them. But this is a street car for me, and I was only getting them for their rarity and weight. So to me, if they aren't covered, they are simply not worth the extra expense.

[modkrazy]

Originally Posted by VCP

HAHAHA, yes it does you well 6 feet under

Not sure what you mean by this.

That the ceramic brakes are far safer and will keep you alive?

Or are you saying you have a terminal condition, and don't intend to procreate, and want to spend any and all of your money as fast as humanly possible?

One can sure hope...

[Divexxtreme]

Originally Posted by shortseller

My guess is...CCB sales will dictate warranty coverage at some point, ie if enough boxes don't get checked on new orders, BMW is sure to come back with a inclusive plan and even maybe even a price drop. Got to pay for all that early trial stage costs somehow! 8K, sure!

Agreed! I told my dealer that if BMW doesn't cover them, buyers are going to shy away from them even more than they already are. BMW needs to step up and cover their CCBs just like Chevy does for the ZR1, Z06 and Z/28, and Porsche does for all of their PCCB cars.

[VCP]

That much is obvious. I did not comment to you on this thread. I gave my personal opinion on what I will/would do. Problem with that? Car payments getting to you?

Originally Posted by modkrazy

Not sure what you mean by this.

[modkrazy]

Originally Posted by Divexxtreme

Agreed! I told my dealer that if BMW doesn't cover them, buyers are going to shy away from them even more than they already are. BMW needs to step up and cover their CCBs just like Chevy does for the ZR1, Z06 and Z/28, and Porsche does for all of their PCCB cars.

I'm 99% certain they cover them. Again, there is no exclusion language in the contract, they have no grounds to deny coverage other than "I said so", in which case for $8K I'll gladly wring them through the courts, and I don't even have a mayor uncle.

Originally Posted by VCP

That much is obvious. I did not comment to you on this thread. I gave my personal opinion on what I will/would do. Problem with that? Car payments getting to you?

You responded to my post, and I was responding back.

[VCP]

Post #42

Originally Posted by modkrazy

You responded to my post, and I was responding back.

[dave885]

Originally Posted by Reid

Nowhere does it say that CCB's are specifically excluded.

There is the catchall sentence at the end that references vehicle specific exclusions in the Service and Warranty Booklet, so without actually reading that I don't think you can say they are covered. I'm would bet they are covered for defect under the vehicle warranty, but wouldn't use the language on the BMW website to assume they're covered under the maintenance program.

My .02.

[GBPackerfan1963]

Originally Posted by Divexxtreme

This may be old news to some of you on here, but it's new news to me. I'm now canceling my carbon brake order. Frustrating.

"It should also be noted that BMW's four-year maintenance plan covers replacement rotors and pads, but it will not cover the carbon option. So at $8,000 for the upgrade and about $2,000 per corner for replacement rotors that's something to be considered."

http://carbuying.jalopnik.com/what-y...ium=socialflow

Old news. They are covered now. BMW changed their minds. Carry on.

[Zeroblade]

These CCB's man... one would love to have them but if they don't provide that much of an improvement outside of track they're one tough pill to swallow.

I'm a bit not surprised the brakes aren't covered cause I read somewhere CCB's are expected to last 98k miles. Ultimate service lasts 4 years/50k Miles right? If technically they don't need maintenance they I guess makes since there's no need to cover them in that sense.

On the hand, if somehow the car is a Lemon and the brakes are involved then I expect BMW to do something about it.

I would imagine the weight reduction would probably help with fuel economy at least in the long run. However how long would it take for it to have positive returns on that front is another mystery.

[Divexxtreme]

Phone call # 3. The Service Manager at my dealer says he's "100% sure they aren't covered", and plans on emailing me the language that states that. I'll post it here for you guys to read once I get it, whatever it says.

[SakhirM4]

Seems like there shouldn't be any maintenance required for the CCBs during the free maintenance period. If there is a problem during that time, that should come under warranty, not maintenance.

[nickdrivesm3]

The warranty clerk at my dealership says they're covered...

Who's got Popcorn?

[ybbiz34]

Originally Posted by Divexxtreme

Phone call # 3. The Service Manager at my dealer says he's "100% sure they aren't covered", and plans on emailing me the language that states that. I'll post it here for you guys to read once I get it, whatever it says.

Please do.

Seems like there is quite a bit of conflicting information.

Dealers are notorious for being absolutely clueless.

Housekeeping:

Let's drop all the name-calling and bickering. We are better than that. Kind of.

[Divexxtreme]

Originally Posted by gmcconn535

Seems like there shouldn't be any maintenance required for the CCBs during the free maintenance period. If there is a problem during that time, that should come under waranty, not maintenance.

I'm inferring from the article, correctly or incorrectly, that the pads (not just the rotors) may also not be covered under the maintenance program with the carbon option. My dealer says the article is correct, but I hope to have more definitive info tomorrow. Either way, I don't feel like playing "maintenace-coverage" games with BMW with these things, so I decided to drop them from my order.

[SakhirM4]

It seems like there is a problem in understanding the difference between "covered by warranty" and "covered under maintenance", which appears to be contributing to the confusion.

[nachob]

Originally Posted by ybbiz34

Please do.



Dealers are notorious for being absolutely clueless.

Absolutely, dealers know very little. You have to contact BMW USA and get it in writing/email.