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M4CS | 36 | 32.43% | |
Loaded M4 Competition | 75 | 67.57% | |
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11-17-2018, 09:24 AM | #23 | |
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It sounds really good both inside and out and is just at the upper edge of what I would considerable acceptable from a volume standpoint. I see this as a waste of money/redundant. My opinion, of course, but perhaps insight that you can relate to. Edit 1 - our commutes are very similar. I'm able to kiss 100mph occasionally. Edit 2 - one thing I will caution you about, though, is that the ride quality with the 20" wheels/tires is pretty bad over broken surfaces. I would expect the 19" CS front setup to be significantly more comfortable. Last edited by EricSMG; 11-17-2018 at 09:35 AM.. |
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11-17-2018, 09:45 AM | #25 |
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There's no problem using a CS for a daily driver other than what you say about the door cards (small issue for most, I think, but if it's a big deal for you then it should be considered - you're 100% correct about the issues opening the door in a parking lot and left elbow comfort)
For your usage, though, it definitely sounds like the regular M4 is better. Order it in San Marino Blue! |
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I'm not saying the MPE isn't good for some people, just that with the factory CS/ZCP exhaust as good as they are, dropping the coin for the MPE seems redundant... and, perhaps might be too loud for some (for sure too loud for me). Edit 1 - all of my ZCP exhaust comments are from a strictly valves-open perspective. Closed it is a tad too quiet. Open it's loud/raspy/deep without being over the top in traffic. Edit 2 - you transferred the MPE from your base M4 to your CS, correct? Had you not already owned the MPE, would you purchase it again for your CS car? In other words, did you install the MPE on your CS car more out of convenience rather than dissatisfaction with how the stock CS sounds? Last edited by EricSMG; 11-17-2018 at 10:28 AM.. |
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I am using the same winter BMW 640M wheel and tire set I had from my previous 2015 M4. It works greats and looks decent enough with some spacers (12mm front and 7mm rear). I am not a big fan of spacers in general, but I don't mind them too much on a winter setup. Without them, I find the wheels look way too tucked in. As for the door pulls, I developed a technique where I hold onto the door pull with my right hand as I pull the door latch with my left hand which allows me to control the door as it opens. As for the armrests, I never really used the center one in my previous M4, so the lack of the center armrest is not really an issue for me. The lack of storage under the non-existant center armrest had me puzzled at first, because that's where I used throw my keys, wallet and phone when I got in the car. I finally figured I can use the small storage compartment under the headlight switch for that purpose. I find left armrest on the door card to be perfectly positioned for my size and driving position. I actually find the angle to be perfect which allows my elbow to rest perpendicular on it when I hold the steering wheel. Finally, the overall armrest arrangement significantly improves elbow room which I find makes handling the steering wheel easier, particularly when on track.
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My dealer had an M3cs so I heard the stock CS exhaust side by side to the MPE on my M4cs. There is no comparison, the MPE sounded way better to me. Plus, it saves an additional 17lb . I would have likely paid the extra to get an MPE if I hadn't already owned one. But that is only my opinion.
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Side note/thread derail - how do you find the MPHAS/CS setup from a daily comfort AND handling perspective? Specifically, if you know, how does this setup compare to a stock ZCP setup in terms of comfort? |
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Interesting that you transferred the M performance exhaust onto the CS, CanAutM3! While I haven't heard them side-by-side, I like both notes. And as a 39-year-old, I didn't really think that either was too juvenile. $83k USD is an outstanding deal!
Your winter setup looks solid; I'm surely going to need a dedicated wheel-and-tire set, particularly given the shocking condition of Philadelphia roads and winter maintenance. Montreal likely has a much better snow removal situation than we do here! I feel the same way about the in-cabin storage; I put my charging cable, EZpass, and wallet in the center console, but these will likely fit in the compartment in front of my left knee. The armrest angle is a bit more concerning to me, as someone who's 6'2" with long arms. It felt a bit awkward when using it on my test drives, but maybe I'd get used to it? Darth One, any issues with the GTS' door cards/pulls on your end? Are you using the car as a track-only weapon where you're not really parking it next to anything, or is it a road car/in parking lots as well? |
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I park it regularly in parking lots...I have to control the opening of the door with the pull loop and sometimes just let it open to the first stop, and squeeze out. It's stupid, but I make do.
A couple of times, I forgot and it's somewhat horrifying to watch the door swing open and not being able to do anything about it. Luckily haven't damaged anything yet |
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I see. What's your concern here? Aesthetics or having to buy new tires, etc? Seems like CS has the staggered setup so I guess car should run fine?
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11-17-2018, 10:23 PM | #38 |
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Yes you can daily the CS (sold my Zcp and bought a CS) . One thing I can add is that the CS suspension/ride is more comfortable in the CS than the ZCP.
Don't miss the center armrest, I use the seat side bolsters to rest my elbows. I love how "special" the CS feels due to the door cards and loops. Yo do have to open the door with more care. |
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Don't know, but unless those 97 miles were covered in an off-road rally I'd take the discount. Can't believe it's still available
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This is kinda strange question to be honest, anyhow you want a more comfortable daily driver and you are asking should you get the competition over the CS! .rts
My answer to you as most people will agree in the poll, competiton package with every single option and get all M performance parts and you wont regret it trust me!
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M3CS has same stereo as ZCP but doesn't M4CS have a base model stereo?? If so then for the stereo alone on a daily. |
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I say go for a minimally optioned ZCP car in the mid-70s (high 60s after discounts). That's the bang for buck zone. ZCP, standard leather and DCT (if you're not a manual guy) are honestly the only meaningful options. Well, the Apple car play is pretty slick and a good value at $300. OR... stretch a little and get the CS after hefty discount. Last edited by EricSMG; 11-18-2018 at 08:56 AM.. |
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Our household is pretty well integrated with Apple products with multiple interconnected iPhones, iPods, iPads, iMacs and AirPlay multimedia around the whole house. So we are pretty fond of Apple products. However, my M4cs came standard with Apple Car Play and after doodling with it, I chose to keep it disabled. I find the phone interface to be easier to access directly through iDrive which also allows to see the phone interface on the HUD. I find Car Play just too cumbersome to use and access.
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