M3 CP explained as best I can video....

[gtsussex]

Originally Posted by dopper99

You did already reply to my post above Guy.

But I'll never tire of you saying that its quicker!

How far are you off the 1st service? Although I guess you've not driven it all weekend..........

Senility is setting in!!! Picking it up this afternoon hopefully looking soooooper shiney!

Was on about 700 miles when dropped it off. Trip up to Lorcan will add another 350 onto that.

[dopper99]

Originally Posted by gtsussex

Senility is setting in!!! Picking it up this afternoon hopefully looking soooooper shiney!

Was on about 700 miles when dropped it off. Trip up to Lorcan will add another 350 onto that.

Cool, will look the business later then.

[Chompers]

Guy, that was a fantastic video. Thanks for taking the time to post it

[d4springer]

Good vid! Look forward to some more!

[Adcampo]

Great in-depth review. As others have said, very informative. One thing I have to admit, I thought the comp package came with the MPE. It sounds like a "sport exhaust" with some flap changes and new tips.

[dopper99]

Another question!!!!!!!!!

Guy, I dont think you covered the gearchange (drive dynamics?) button that alters how quick the gear changes occur?

You had a play with that yet? Does it apply to both manual and auto modes of the DCT?

Cheers.

[gtsussex]

Originally Posted by Adcampo

Great in-depth review. As others have said, very informative. One thing I have to admit, I thought the comp package came with the MPE. It sounds like a "sport exhaust" with some flap changes and new tips.

That's about the size of it. Although we now have had someone who has fitted a CP exhaust to a standard M3 and say it's deeper. Quite how that is possible when not running CP software and supposedly no changes to back box is a mystery!!

[gtsussex]

Originally Posted by dopper99

Another question!!!!!!!!!

Guy, I dont think you covered the gearchange (drive dynamics?) button that alters how quick the gear changes occur?

You had a play with that yet? Does it apply to both manual and auto modes of the DCT?

Cheers.

Will add to list Andy.

[Imran@Evolve]

Great video and insight. :-)

[M5essex]

Originally Posted by dopper99

Another question!!!!!!!!!

Guy, I dont think you covered the gearchange (drive dynamics?) button that alters how quick the gear changes occur?

You had a play with that yet? Does it apply to both manual and auto modes of the DCT?

Cheers.

Hi Dopper99,

that button just allows you to change how quickly the gears change whilst in 'D' depending on your driving style. whether you want a sportier gear change and hold it in gear longer (redline) or an efficient softer gear change for better fuel consumption.

so if you have D1 showing on the dash, it changes up very quickly to get you in top gear asap, and with D3 showing it will hold it in gear higher up the rev range. I think it also adjusts to your driving style. so if you gun it often it will stay in gear all the way to redline.

as soon as you switch to 'S' or manual mode, it will change to S3 and bang the gears in as quickly as you can pull the paddle. in the M5 and even in the old e92 m3 (I think) if you turned off traction completely, you got a further hidden 'gear ferocity' setting over and above the usual bars.. so bangs in the gears lightening quick, but I found it made the change too ferocious and unsettled the rear at speed and on bends like the old SMG box..

does that help? i'm sure Guy will have a better explanation of how it works

[dopper99]

Originally Posted by M5essex

Hi Dopper99,

that button just allows you to change how quickly the gears change whilst in 'D' depending on your driving style. whether you want a sportier gear change and hold it in gear longer (redline) or an efficient softer gear change for better fuel consumption.

so if you have D1 showing on the dash, it changes up very quickly to get you in top gear asap, and with D3 showing it will hold it in gear higher up the rev range. I think it also adjusts to your driving style. so if you gun it often it will stay in gear all the way to redline.

as soon as you switch to 'S' or manual mode, it will change to S3 and bang the gears in as quickly as you can pull the paddle. in the M5 and even in the old e92 m3 (I think) if you turned off traction completely, you got a further hidden 'gear ferocity' setting over and above the usual bars.. so bangs in the gears lightening quick, but I found it made the change too ferocious and unsettled the rear at speed and on bends like the old SMG box..

does that help? i'm sure Guy will have a better explanation of how it works

Thanks M5essex , thats a great explanation!!!

[M5essex]

Originally Posted by gtsussex

Will add to list Andy.

Hi Guy, have I given Andy/dopper right info on this and understood correctly? have you found the same or know if it functions differently?

[dopper99]

Originally Posted by M5essex

Hi Guy, have I given Andy/dopper right info on this and understood correctly? have you found the same or know if it functions differently?

Unfortunately the hand book doesnt always explain these things that well!!!

[gtsussex]

Originally Posted by M5essex

Hi Dopper99,

that button just allows you to change how quickly the gears change whilst in 'D' depending on your driving style. whether you want a sportier gear change and hold it in gear longer (redline) or an efficient softer gear change for better fuel consumption.

so if you have D1 showing on the dash, it changes up very quickly to get you in top gear asap, and with D3 showing it will hold it in gear higher up the rev range. I think it also adjusts to your driving style. so if you gun it often it will stay in gear all the way to redline.

as soon as you switch to 'S' or manual mode, it will change to S3 and bang the gears in as quickly as you can pull the paddle. in the M5 and even in the old e92 m3 (I think) if you turned off traction completely, you got a further hidden 'gear ferocity' setting over and above the usual bars.. so bangs in the gears lightening quick, but I found it made the change too ferocious and unsettled the rear at speed and on bends like the old SMG box..

does that help? i'm sure Guy will have a better explanation of how it works

Couldn't have said it better myself. Yup, just like ZF has two modes - normal and sport, the DCT has 3 modes in both Drive and Sequential modes.

D1 - efficient, D2 - relaxed and D3 - sport

Works in much the same way as you would expect. D1 is always selected on startup but you can code whatever you want to M buttons.

On any damp conditions it's very easy indeed to unsettle the rear even on 2nd setting. Learn to be smooth and it's brilliant. I'm still sussing out MDM. Slackens up traction but still doesn't seem to give you much chance of slip angle, even in the wet (and I really tried to catch it out yesterday) - was quite surprised how restrictive it was even in those conditions. Equally surprising was how quickly i was making progress in pants conditions. But it does seem a little sad that they couldn't have a more leniant DSC setting beyond MDM as after that it's TC off and having tried it briefly, you'd really need to have your wits about you.

[Wills2]

Originally Posted by M5essex

as soon as you switch to 'S' or manual mode, it will change to S3 and bang the gears in as quickly as you can pull the paddle. in the M5 and even in the old e92 m3 (I think) if you turned off traction completely, you got a further hidden 'gear ferocity' setting over and above the usual bars.. so bangs in the gears lightening quick, but I found it made the change too ferocious and unsettled the rear at speed and on bends like the old SMG box..

does that help? i'm sure Guy will have a better explanation of how it works

Our M5s just had the 3 settings like the current F80 M3 the e92 and SMG e46 had the S1/2/3/4/5+6 "hidden" (DSC off) mode.

I remember the first full bore S6 changes in my e46 SMG, I thought the rear axle was going to rip off!

[GEP77]

Fantastic review there Guy. It was partly down to your review of the 335d back in 2013 that got me in one then and yet again I'm tempted!

Quick question re the lumbar support. Did you find that you had to have adjustable lumbar on the 335 previously? I've unfortunately found previous BMWs that didn't have lumbar very uncomfortable, something that was immediately rectified by having the adjustable support.

[gtsussex]

Originally Posted by GEP77

Fantastic review there Guy. It was partly down to your review of the 335d back in 2013 that got me in one then and yet again I'm tempted!

Quick question re the lumbar support. Did you find that you had to have adjustable lumbar on the 335 previously? I've unfortunately found previous BMWs that didn't have lumbar very uncomfortable, something that was immediately rectified by having the adjustable support.

Thanks. I've done 2k now and I've not had any issues at all with lumbar. There's a fixed amount of support and I think that because it isn't adjustable, they think the back of the seat is flat - it isn't!

[gtsussex]

Just realised I never re-uploaded this vid - doing now.

[dopper99]

I also noticed you did not upload the M3 standard vs M3 CP vid Guy. Not sure if that was deliberate though as it provokes a few differing views.

Was a really good vid.

[gtsussex]

Originally Posted by dopper99

I also noticed you did not upload the M3 standard vs M3 CP vid Guy. Not sure if that was deliberate though as it provokes a few differing views.

Was a really good vid.

Didn't I? Will get that up again then.

Will be doing first one for a long time in a week or two as hitting 10k and car now quite a lot different to say I bought it (and going to be changing more).

[dopper99]

Originally Posted by gtsussex

Didn't I? Will get that up again then.

Will be doing first one for a long time in a week or two as hitting 10k and car now quite a lot different to say I bought it (and going to be changing more).

Sounds good, looking forward to it.