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03-14-2012, 08:14 PM | #111 |
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Exactly my thought as well. Is BMW goes through with this, it is purely a "bottom line" driven initiative, and they will make it count i.e...Im expecting atleast a 20% increase in price between the new M3 and M4.
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03-14-2012, 08:22 PM | #112 | |
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Sure theyve been hinting at it for a while, sure other manufacturers have done it in the past, but other than potential increase in profits for BMW, there is no benefit for customers as far as I can tell. Granted, the M4 will be slightly more powerful and refined than the new M3, which will be slightly more powerful and refined than the current M3. While these technological advances definitely warrant an increase in price from the current M3 base price, they definitely DONT warrant an increase in price from the new M3 to the M4 models, considering the fact that the base technology used in both cars will be the same. The only factor that will drive a price difference between the M3 and the M4 will be the fact that the coupe version is usually much more in demand, and all BMW is trying to do here is to capitalize on that increase in demand by significantly increasing M4 pricing compared to the M3. |
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03-15-2012, 11:00 AM | #113 | |
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03-15-2012, 01:01 PM | #114 | |
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COGs have no impact on price when it comes to market segmentation.
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03-15-2012, 07:48 PM | #116 | |
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I also liked the logical model names of the older standard series cars where the first number stood for the series, and the second two numbers stood for the actual engine displacement. After the model names began to no longer represent the engine displacement accurately, I decided I really don't care what the car is called as long as it performs and is well executed.
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The Ultimate Selling point for the Gran Coupe 6er is although it is a four door , in relation to height between the 3er , 5er and 7er it is the lowest (in height) BMW four dr Sedan. This is why the term Gran Coupe fits. Because the low roofline and sleek sporting sloping roof embodies the feeling of a Coupe compared to a regular sedan.
The 6er Gran Coupe , however will be (in relation to height) the lowest BMW Sedan. However the 4er Gran Coupe when it arrives will be slightly lower than the 6er Gran Coupe and again follows the same formula.
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03-16-2012, 06:06 AM | #119 | |
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The same about me. I like coupés, but I prefere them with four doors, they are more practical, you don't need to get out of the car to let he rear passengers get in/out. For a proper performance/sportscar I'd look at a 2 seater. |
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Well teh M4GC could be the perfect compromise for me, sportiness and features of the M4 but the convenience of the M3 with 4 doors.
But I can guarantee it would blow my budget big time! |
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There is nothing wrong if the F80 M3 sedan is the only M3 model ... and its only "Back to the roots" as the very frist M3 based on the E30 was also quoted by BMW as "2-door-sedan" and never as coupe! The first M3-Coupe was the E36 Coupe but there was also an M3-Sedan in the E36 Range. Only with the E46 there was no M3-Sedan. Its simple BS to define the iconic "M3" only on his badge ... that fanboy "bla-bla" for those who never could afford an new M3 and put M3 badges on their regular e36/46/92 coupes ... the iconic "M3" is only defined on performence and on nothing else ... if the car has an outstanding performence on track and on street than it is worth to be named as "M3". And in the currend generation the E90 M3 is as fast as (if not a very little bit faster as!) the E92 M3 ... so the E90 M3 is 110% worth to wear the M3 Badge. This is not only my opinion ... no, thats the only truth and there could the M3=Coupe Fanboy Fraction saying what they want. If in the E9x M3 range there is an car that probably (not my opinion!) is not really worth to wear the M3 Badge than its the E93 convertible because it lacks the performence of the two others - because of its weight, but nobody of the fanboy would says this, because the convertible is an real good fanboy poser. So if the new M3 is the F80 sedan and the F82 coupe is upgraded to the Moniker M4 nothing is going wrong ... the myth M3 lives on in an car that is more than 110% worth to wear this Badge as only model, because this would have an such outstanding performence (so much better than all old M3s!) that it would be the "best M3 ever". And all who like the Coupe more, could buy the same car as M4. Greets Uli_HH |
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03-16-2012, 12:48 PM | #122 | |
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Im not hating on the M3 sedan...never said it didnt deserve the M3 badge. I just prefer the coupe and dont like the fact that I cant buy an "M3 coupe" starting 2014. |
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