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I added a daily driver about 1.5 years into owning my M4. I test drove a ton of cars and landed on a 2013 Focus ST fully loaded from an older lady off Craigslist for $15k 2 years ago. What was driving me to get 3rd car was I calculated I would burn into my 4yr/50k mi warranty before year 3 with my commute and weekend driving excursions. I was also modding the M4 with 3-way coilovers and full E85 tune so it was becoming less of a practical daily and having it at the shop for a couple days was inconvenient to deal with alt transportation.
My criteria was the car had to be fun to drive and fairly cheap to maintain so the Focus ST met both of those. Heck, my first dealership service was replacing the rear brakes pads and rotors which totaled about $400 part and labor which I know is expensive for Ford but that's 1 rear 305/30 PS4S tire on the M4 30k miles into the ST and I still enjoy it as a daily with 4 doors. So much I'm tempted to find a cheap Focus RS which would be a nice HP upgrade and AWD. |
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09-15-2018, 10:36 AM | #25 |
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My position on DD is simple: if I couldn't have a DD, I would have leased the car.
My reasons for this, in declining order of significance are these: I expect to keep the M4 for an extended period of time, ~10yrs; I live in the Northeast, where they don't use rock salt. Instead, they use oceans of liquid brine that at highway speeds gets way the hell up inside panels where you can never ever flush it out. Unlike rock salt, brine remains long after the last snow and continues to get up inside your car every time it rains; I live in New Jersey where parking manners are probably as bad as anywhere on the planet. Early in my career when I had no parking options I had an Acura DD that after three years looked like a freaking golfball; I have two Labradors that sometimes need to go to the vet or to the lake (maybe this shouldn't be last on the list). Were I leasing the car than all the above would be moot, except maybe to whomever bought it as a CPO. Regarding what I would select as a DD this is also simple: with indoor parking an E46; without indoor parking a long-wheelbase extended crewcab Toyota 4WD pickup truck with a cap. Which is what I have. |
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09-15-2018, 11:05 AM | #27 |
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Hahaha... considering the condition it would be in after 3 years that car would be sold at the auction below wholesale and not turned into a CPO. Some folks just don’t get it. I plan on keeping my weekend F80 for 10 years and it’s a purchase not a lease. So I totally understand your reasoning for having a DD.
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Nah bro it’s all good. I’m not offended and I’m sure the OP isn’t either. It’s just that without fail anytime someone mentions keeping their F80 as a weekend car or garage queen some folks on here lose their mind lol.
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09-15-2018, 12:17 PM | #29 |
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My "strong" opinion is that having two 'fun' cars makes no sense. Your other car should be for utilitarian purposes and here is where a pickup is the only viable option.
There is no way I could live without a truck and thus it's hard for me to imagine how other grown men with houses/families/hobbies could. Do you go camping? Do you ride dirtbikes? Do you go on ski trips? Home depot runs? Dump runs? Landscaping projects? Mountain biking? Kayaking? Cost Co runs? It goes on and on and on. You cannot do most of those comfortably, or some at all, without a truck. And if you think you can, you've never owned a truck. They're life changing. Get yourself a Chevy Silverado 1500 shortbed/crew cab, circa ~2007 and 2012. Extremely nice trucks. Carry 5 full grown men in luxury, comfort and style. Get high teems combined mpg. Get a 4x4 for winter use. Spend about 20k. Care less about mileage, wear and tear, depreciation, etc. Requires minimal maintenance. Win. Win. Win. |
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My buddy of 25 years (wife, kids, dog, hobbies, etc) just made the Tahoe-Truck switch after many years and he's been extremely happy with the convenience and flexibility of the truck. He gave up nothing (but the third row of seats) and gained a ton. He picked up a '16 Z71 crew cab 1500 and it's DAMN nice. Food for thought. Edit - about the only benefit of the Tahoe is that it's shorter and thus easier to park in tight spaces. Last edited by EricSMG; 09-15-2018 at 01:19 PM.. |
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but for many, the benefit of the 3rd row if needed (kids friends etc) is more useful than the rare occasions of transporting such a massive item. with the seats folded the Tahoe can fit a lot, but not as much as a truck, and for dirty items such as mulch etc, its nicer to have a truck. they both offer a ton of flexibility, although in slightly different ways |
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The issue with having a nice car in an area that experiences 4 seasons is that it’s not just about throwing snow tires on the car and having paint correction done in the spring. It’s all the hidden damage from road salts and grime that take a long term toll on a winter driven vehicle. If someone is leasing then this isn’t such a big deal, but if you bought the car to keep long term then keeping that garbage off of the underside of the car is priceless. Salt does some serious damage to the underside and suspension parts on a car.
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I went with an i3 as my 3rd car and it was the best decision I ever made. Adaptive Cruise, instant torque, and the carpool lane has made my 40 mile commute a breeze. Family hauling in my wife's car and the i3 leaves the F80 for fun drives and keeps the miles down.
The i3 is different enough that I don't feel like I'm just driving a slower F80 like you would in a F30. I think you will find that there are more than a few of us who have the M3 i3 combo because of how well they compliment each other.
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I have just as much fun in my Land Bruiser as I do the M4. In fact, the Toyota truck is my lifetime car whereas the M4, as great as it is, remains a temporary vehicle that'll get replaced by a GT3 again.
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LC80? Looks good. I agree with the toyota/lexus SUVs for lifetime ownership. My other car is a GX460 - great stock stereo, awd with a rear locker, plenty of towing capacity, and a surprisingly pleasant sounding v8. I don't see my self getting rid of it, but if I did, it would definately be for something of the land cruiser variety
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How about a 6MT E91 wagon? The 328i N52 is a relatively simple engine to maintain and the 6MT actually makes it kind of fun. It's also the last NA manual wagon offered by BMW in the states.
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