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      12-19-2013, 05:44 PM   #67
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      12-19-2013, 05:47 PM   #68
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Both cars look good. These pictures are much better than the e90/f80 m3 comparison. However, I find myself liking the e92 more (especially the interior, just personal preference) but perhaps when I see the f82 in person I will change my mind.
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      12-19-2013, 06:52 PM   #69
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Love the M4. M3 looks so outdated!
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      12-19-2013, 08:43 PM   #70
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Interior: F82.
Exterior: E92

Clearly in both cases for me.
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      12-19-2013, 08:46 PM   #71
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M4 all the way. Love the interior with real carbon fiber, contrasting stitching with the leather, LED headlights, etc. The new M4 looks great!
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      12-19-2013, 08:54 PM   #72
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It's a shame they couldn't make the new car sound better than a honda with a fart can muffler.
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      12-19-2013, 08:58 PM   #73
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It's a shame they couldn't make the new car sound better than a honda with a fart can muffler.
There's always akra or another aftermarket exhaust. It can't hurt and maybe it will give it a more baritone or manly fart.
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      12-19-2013, 09:56 PM   #74
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      12-19-2013, 10:21 PM   #75
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      12-19-2013, 10:42 PM   #76
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      12-19-2013, 11:57 PM   #77
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I think everyone is missing the significance of wider and lower. This likely doesn't translate well in pictures (as much as a flared fender would). If you have ever looked at the 997 911 in person and compared the S to the 4S, a couple inches of width make a big difference in look.

I think once more people get the opportunity to see the M4 in person, there will be a realization that it looks significantly better than pictures.

At least I hope so.
Good points! Both are great designs.
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      12-20-2013, 12:08 AM   #78
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[bpnews="Comparison: F82 M4 versus E92 M3"]
Jason, the performance part of this comparison as you are presenting it is futile as long as what truly differentiates the two cars is not taken into account. That is the character, response and refinement of the engine. For example comparing a NA engine HP to a turbo engine HP is missing a whole dimension and that is when and how early in time after pressing the pedal do you get that power measured in quantified numerical way. And, does the car have to be in a lively driving bout previously in order to get it all so that the turbo lag can be masked ? how is the car behaving when that turbo turbine is not spinning fast enough is it going to behave like a puny 3.0 liter engine with low static compression ? Those peak horsepower and peak torque are useless (curves also) if not taken in conjunction with the throttle response at every RPM.

I have to say politely that the way you are approaching the comparison is biased. Since everything that makes this M4 undesirable is not transpiring (throttle response, artificially "enhanced" engine sound in the cabin, electric steering). What makes this M4 questionable is the engine of course but also there are big questions about reliability of a 335is inspired engine platform for a track car. And what about direct injection related issues like blow off gases leading to carbon deposits on the intake valves. This is a well known problem of this type of engine configuration and it will eventually rob the engine of its power unless taken apart for active cleaning.
The advantage of a NA engine is that the throttle response is there all the time, you get that peak power instantaneously. Even if a turbo engine had an ideal response it can only approach the NA engine response but in reality it never does because forced induction is a compromise of natural throttle response and linear engine power delivery for torque and smaller displacment. The torque curve presented sofar are single dimensional (only RPM is considered) and always assume max instantaneous torque which is simply never the case for a turbo engine. This is a trump comparison. ( I am not talking about looks, which is a subjective thing).

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      12-20-2013, 01:37 AM   #79
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The E92 aged really well. When the E46 was outgoing, it looked soft - though in fairness it looked fairly soft when new after we became used to the power dome and quad exhaust. The E92 M still looks menacing and gorgeous, particularly with the 359Ms
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      12-20-2013, 01:54 AM   #80
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Question. Does anyone know if the M4 will bring front brake cooling ducts?
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      12-20-2013, 02:57 AM   #81
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I know this is subjective but the F82 Looks better all the way around. IMO the F82 should of been the natural successor to the E46. Inline 6 FTW!!
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      12-20-2013, 03:12 AM   #82
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I must say E92 looks much more handsome, cleaner look
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      12-20-2013, 03:35 AM   #83
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You have to admit that BMWs age sooooooooooooooo much better than other brands like Audi and MB
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      12-20-2013, 03:55 AM   #84
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E9x M3 doesn't have the extra look / presence that I want from a M car. The new M4 does and the E46 M3 still has.
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      12-20-2013, 06:16 AM   #85
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Jason, the performance part of this comparison as you are presenting it is futile as long as what truly differentiates the two cars is not taken into account. That is the character, response and refinement of the engine.
The point of the post was specifically to provide a comparison of the two cars' specs, not to indulge in a comparative review of their merits.

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I have to say politely that the way you are approaching the comparison is biased. Since everything that makes this M4 undesirable is not transpiring (throttle response, artificially "enhanced" engine sound in the cabin, electric steering).
And I would politely reply that you are getting way ahead of yourself here. No one has driven the new car yet so it is premature to make conclusions about things like throttle response and steering feel.

You are certainly free to speculate and give your own thoughts but to suggest that a subjective opinion should be part of a purposely objective comparison is off base.
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It's a shame they couldn't make the new car sound better than a honda with a fart can muffler.
Captain overreaction over here. Nothing Honda makes sounds anything like a Twin-Turbo Straight 6.

On topic though, the only thing I like better concerning the F82 is the interior. The exterior goes to the E92, no questions asked every single angle. It just looks sharper, more to the point. The F82 looks kind of soft in comparison. & the E92 screams elegance, something the F82 does not do at all. The F82 looks too busy, especially the front end. The designer seems like he had too much fun with it, almost as if he or she is a talented teenager. & the goddamn Bimmer-Rangs! Another thing I cannot stand is the greenhouse.. From a 3/4 rear view it almost looks like a small, 2-door crossover. Mini X6M?


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Give me an E92, with the interior, weight & CCB's of an F82 and we have a winner.
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      12-20-2013, 10:03 AM   #87
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The point of the post was specifically to provide a comparison of the two cars' specs, not to indulge in a comparative review of their merits.



And I would politely reply that you are getting way ahead of yourself here. No one has driven the new car yet so it is premature to make conclusions about things like throttle response and steering feel.

You are certainly free to speculate and give your own thoughts but to suggest that a subjective opinion should be part of a purposely objective comparison is off base.
I agree that there is just too much hate and opinion about the car's dynamics based on where the engine was manufactured, aspiration properties and speculated performance numbers. People who do not like the idea of the car should stop looking at it. There are many of us who evolve with the changing times and embrace the fact that 7 more years of e92 would be not that exciting. I love my e92 but very excited to see whats next.
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The point of the post was specifically to provide a comparison of the two cars' specs, not to indulge in a comparative review of their merits.



And I would politely reply that you are getting way ahead of yourself here. No one has driven the new car yet so it is premature to make conclusions about things like throttle response and steering feel.

You are certainly free to speculate and give your own thoughts but to suggest that a subjective opinion should be part of a purposely objective comparison is off base.
good post. I am getting sick of these guys crying about how horrible turbos are etc...especially without having actually driven the car.

We will see just how good this car is when its released for testing by the pros and testing for the normal folks like us
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