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      09-05-2012, 10:30 PM   #133
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Why 4 tail pipes? I thought they were going back to a straight six for this revision?
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Goes well with the new poser friendly direction that ///M has taken.
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      09-05-2012, 11:06 PM   #134
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Goes well with the new poser friendly direction that ///M has taken.
As far as I remember my E46 M3 was a 'poser' I6 with quad pipes...sigh.... not sure what you guys are giggling about?
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      09-05-2012, 11:50 PM   #135
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All the naysayers will be lining up by production time. If you don't believe me go back and read all the negative comments about the first E92 renders.

It's just the way it goes. The successor doesn't line up to everyone's eye compared to the previous generation but eventually it grows on you... once the modding starts you'll all be locked in.
Agreed, go ahead and end this thread.
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      09-06-2012, 02:36 AM   #136
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All the naysayers will be lining up by production time. If you don't believe me go back and read all the negative comments about the first E92 renders.

It's just the way it goes. The successor doesn't line up to everyone's eye compared to the previous generation but eventually it grows on you... once the modding starts you'll all be locked in.
Agreed, go ahead and end this thread.
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      09-06-2012, 05:08 AM   #137
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I have been driving for 20 years without LED running lights so to me they are completely pointless. Maybe it's different in Belgium, but please try and be less rude by responding with more respect for other people's opinions.


that is like saying before air bags came out, had you driven a non airbag car for years, they'd also be pointless. or antilock brakes for that matter.

i'd have to say something pointless (not sure they are tacky as they do look cool, though they don't really serve a purpose other than looks) would be things like the fake vent on the side of the M. at least the LED daytime lights do something.
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      09-06-2012, 05:12 AM   #138
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All the naysayers will be lining up by production time. If you don't believe me go back and read all the negative comments about the first E92 renders.

It's just the way it goes. The successor doesn't line up to everyone's eye compared to the previous generation but eventually it grows on you... once the modding starts you'll all be locked in.
im waiting until it comes out.

i am fairly steadfast in what i call unattractive . it stays that way.

i mean the e60 5 series was ugly. it was out for what 7 years. i still think its ugly. maybe it looks less bad in M form. same with that saggy door line on the 1 series. itll never look great, its just ok i can live with it because this car drives awesome.

the e90 pre-LCI looked well kind of boring, but the new F30 i think looks a little better especially in m-sport (i might have to get one ...) . i just remember when the 2006 e90s came out, the taillights looked so conservative and not bmw like without the L shape.
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      09-06-2012, 07:27 AM   #139
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That's beautiful. Nice renderings, hope the end product will look like the renderings or close to it.
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      09-06-2012, 07:50 AM   #140
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As far as I remember my E46 M3 was a 'poser' I6 with quad pipes...sigh.... not sure what you guys are giggling about?
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Mine too.
Maybe those guys have never seen an ///M before
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      09-06-2012, 08:42 AM   #141
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A little too clean... needs wider fenders and more attitude. Look like a competitor to the S5, when IMO, BMW should be focusing on the C63 and Carrera. Screw Audi... let them make chick cars
agreed, this looks weak. id be super disappointed if that what they came out with. wouldnt they make the front end different from the sedan like the did in the last generation anyway?
Huh? The sedan/coupe E9X M3's have the same front end minus slightly different fenders because of the differences in the car shell. It isn't easily discernable to 99% of the eyes that view the car(s). WE notice it because we are Bimmerphiles, but the average Joe will not notice the slight variance between the coupe/sedan where the fender mounted turn signals are concerned.

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      09-06-2012, 10:10 AM   #142
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that is like saying before air bags came out, had you driven a non airbag car for years, they'd also be pointless. or antilock brakes for that matter.

i'd have to say something pointless (not sure they are tacky as they do look cool, though they don't really serve a purpose other than looks) would be things like the fake vent on the side of the M. at least the LED daytime lights do something.
Just because you specced them on your A4 doesn't make them "cool" to everyone.

Comparing LED running lights to airbags or ABS brakes is an embarrassing comparison, especially for someone bandying around the word "stupid". When it's dark cars have things called headlights, and on all of my recent cars they've been auto-on. There have also been regular running lights for about 30 years, just because Audi began a trend of LED striplights does not mean they are to everyone's tastes or that they are in anyway a safer option than the daytime markers on Toyotas etc.
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      09-06-2012, 01:30 PM   #143
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      09-06-2012, 02:17 PM   #144
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that's a ford. I mean the spy photos, :P
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      09-06-2012, 03:04 PM   #145
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So is it confirmed that BMW is calling the coupe a 4 series? Doesn't that kill the heritage of the M3 (the essence of M badge)? M4 doesn't sound like M3 at all!
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      09-06-2012, 04:12 PM   #146
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ive liked all the m3s so far, this might be the first i don't
all the same things were said about the E92 not too long ago...

"I like the E46 better..."

"V8? They just killed the ///M herritage!"

"BMW with a V engine in an ///M? No way, I'm keeping my I6"



I love my E92 but, trying to be open minded about the F8x
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      09-06-2012, 10:09 PM   #147
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that is like saying before air bags came out, had you driven a non airbag car for years, they'd also be pointless. or antilock brakes for that matter.
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Just because you specced them on your A4 doesn't make them "cool" to everyone.

Comparing LED running lights to airbags or ABS brakes is an embarrassing comparison, especially for someone bandying around the word "stupid". When it's dark cars have things called headlights, and on all of my recent cars they've been auto-on. There have also been regular running lights for about 30 years, just because Audi began a trend of LED striplights does not mean they are to everyone's tastes or that they are in anyway a safer option than the daytime markers on Toyotas etc.
I think the point isn't comparing LED to ABS but rather that just because you have been driving for 20 years without something, doesn't make it pointless by having them. He could've made the same point by saying if you've been driving for 20 years with manual windows, it doesn't make electric windows pointless.

And LED lights aren't pointless. They have a safety value (e.g., here and here) in providing better illumination thus visibility, and they turn on faster allowing for better reaction time with brake lights. They're also more eco-friendly by being more energy efficient (less fuel and less CO2)... etc.

Individually, these improvements aren't that much, but in aggregate it does make a difference and every little bit counts. And I don't know how the new 3-Series (the F80 in particular if true) is going backwords by not using them.
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      09-06-2012, 10:34 PM   #148
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I think the point isn't comparing LED to ABS but rather that just because you have been driving for 20 years without something, doesn't make it pointless by having them. He could've made the same point by saying if you've been driving for 20 years with manual windows, it doesn't make electric windows pointless.

And LED lights aren't pointless. They have a safety value (e.g., here and here) in providing better illumination thus visibility, and they turn on faster allowing for better reaction time with brake lights. They're also more eco-friendly by being more energy efficient (less fuel and less CO2)... etc.

Individually, these improvements aren't that much, but in aggregate it does make a difference and every little bit counts. And I don't know how the new 3-Series (the F80 in particular if true) is going backwords by not using them.
No, his point was as a safety feature they compare to airbags and abs brakes. Nothing to do with electric windows- that's a luxury item, like navigation or enhanced audio.

My opinion is huge strips of LED running lights is pointless, it was always presented as my opinion by using the words "for me". Understand? You seem to really like taking the opposing view to my posts. If you're going to try and do so I wouldn't use a shop that sells LED lights as one of your sources or present sentences like your last (which is both contradictory and includes words I don't think you meant to use). Or you could just move on

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      09-16-2012, 11:03 AM   #149
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Good rendering but I'm not sold on the stylings. Love the e46 and my e92.. maybe it will grow on me over time. Feel like it doesn't have the agressiveness and flow of its predecessors though.
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Should I even buy the F82 M4?
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Should I even buy the F82 M4?
Nah, stick with your E46
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I have faith in the M division. I feel (though I have never been close to one) that the 1M with its engine and suspension is a fantastic car. I love the high rev nature of the M3, but I also love torque. I have already put a deposit down on the M4 and I have no problem doing it without knowing all of the specifics. I haven't seen an M3 that sucks and I don't think this will be the first one either.
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I have faith in the M division. I feel (though I have never been close to one) that the 1M with its engine and suspension is a fantastic car. I love the high rev nature of the M3, but I also love torque. I have already put a deposit down on the M4 and I have no problem doing it without knowing all of the specifics. I haven't seen an M3 that sucks and I don't think this will be the first one either.
+1. Agreed.
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