Albert Biermann M division engineering boss - 2016 M3 GT, M7, xDrive M5/M6?

[Falafel Combo]

I personally don't see that big a difference between the GT and a wagon (as far as function and practicality go). Not sure why people are so much hating the GT, and at the same express a burning desire for an f81. I personally would rather have the GT over a wagon. Wagons just have that stigma in my mind. Like old volvo wagons from the 80's. Not digging that. And for some odd reason, wagons just don't sell in the US and are not received very well.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by ///M235i

I personally don't see that big a difference between the GT and a wagon (as far as function and practicality go).

Fair enough.

Not sure why people are so much hating the GT, and at the same express a burning desire for an f81.

I think it is simply that people have an opinion...

I personally would rather have the GT over a wagon. Wagons just have that stigma in my mind. Like old volvo wagons from the 80's. Not digging that.

...just as you do.

[Whostheboss]

Originally Posted by ERM-M3

Just a frew yrs ago The M bosses were laughing at MB for AMGing everything, including their trucks and S class...now look

[Vervain]

Originally Posted by starkindustries

M3GT would be sweet considering how awesome they look in M-Sport trim with properly sized wheels. Fender flares, a drop and a 3.9 0-60 would make this thing an RS7 fighter

Yeah the 3GT looks good in M-sport and will certainly look cool in M guise. They should do it!

Originally Posted by py0413

You do realize the GT they are taking about here is that not-so-handsome weird looking hatch model they create for both 3er and 5er right? Not some extreme performance version of a M3/M4.

LOL when I first read the title, I thought, 'sweet! a crazy version of the M3!'..

I wouldn't mind if they made a GT though. I like it..

[bunker]

Originally Posted by Joyrdr

Ohh here is inside the trunk just in case you were wondering. I was also able to transport a Sony 70" LED TV in here, of course out of the box. It fit perfectly.

...also fits Quasimodo

[SkeezyLP]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

Can we get a 700hp V12 in that M7?

One can only hope

[clbmw]

Originally Posted by ///M235i

I personally don't see that big a difference between the GT and a wagon (as far as function and practicality go). Not sure why people are so much hating the GT, and at the same express a burning desire for an f81. I personally would rather have the GT over a wagon. Wagons just have that stigma in my mind. Like old volvo wagons from the 80's. Not digging that. And for some odd reason, wagons just don't sell in the US and are not received very well.

Dogs don't like being put in boots (trunks) generally, granted removal of the parcel shelf makes it possible but nowhere near as good as a tourer for doggie headroom

[clbmw]

Originally Posted by imserious

M7 would be lame.

They should make M performance everything, formally adopt Alpina to make highway bruisers and save true Ms for cars you would take to the track.

That would allow BMW to have their cake and eat it too.

I sort of agree with you, Alpina should certainly have a presence on BMW's website, it's hardly as if BMW don't make money out of them.

I don't see an M7 as pointless but I think a HyperCar would outsell an M7 if it was priced competitively, I hardly see any 7s on the road and never any other than the diesels.

Absolutely there should be an M Performance version of every model...

...even though it's a bit of a gimmick it visually differentiates the top end non-M model the way Audi has done so successfully with their S models. Something automatic and almost unconscious happens when I see an S model versus the 35i/d model; only briefly, but the attention is drawn to thinking the S is something special whereas the 35i/d is a normal model.

[clbmw]

Originally Posted by Rich@GTBPerformance

Agreed! I would love to see an uptuned version of the N74 V12 in an M7. Developing that engine and only putting it in the 760i and Rolls Royce Ghost has to be a big drain on R&D costs. Put a revised DME and a new exhaust on that thing, Bring it up to 650+ HP and you've got your Hypercar Engine. Hell, stick it in the i8 and call it an M8.

Agreed excepting the i8 bit which has already been confirmed as not happening

[Imola.ZHP]

I predicted this a few days ago in the thread about the rendered M3 Touring, its just nuts, lots of enthusiasts would buy an M3 Touring, but I don't think very many M3 GT's would sell.

Idiots.

[imserious]

Like a few people mentioned, BMW should make a Z4M and a supercar / hypercar. The latter would further bolster the sporting image BMW boasts vs. its competition. BMW should continue playing to its strengths not just filling every niche product category. These are not economy cars after all. There is an element of desireability that you need to maintain.

[Alpine F31]

Originally Posted by Rich@GTBPerformance

Pass on the M3 GT. Give us the F81 M3 Touring!!!

Yes indeed.

[positiveions]

Originally Posted by Imola.ZHP

I predicted this a few days ago in the thread about the rendered M3 Touring, its just nuts, lots of enthusiasts would buy an M3 Touring, but I don't think very many M3 GT's would sell.

Idiots.

Well, you are telling me. In 2 years or so, I would pick me a used E63 AMG wagon with a heart beat.

[BVSEDJESUS]

how about bringing back the 8 series

[clbmw]

Originally Posted by BVSEDJESUS

how about bringing back the 8 series

+1 that would be the ultimate Xmas present from BMW

[turbolag]

Originally Posted by starkindustries

M3GT would be sweet considering how awesome they look in M-Sport trim with properly sized wheels. Fender flares, a drop and a 3.9 0-60 would make this thing an RS7 fighter

That's the M6GC.

[turbolag]

Originally Posted by ///M235i

I personally don't see that big a difference between the GT and a wagon (as far as function and practicality go). Not sure why people are so much hating the GT, and at the same express a burning desire for an f81. I personally would rather have the GT over a wagon. Wagons just have that stigma in my mind. Like old volvo wagons from the 80's. Not digging that. And for some odd reason, wagons just don't sell in the US and are not received very well.

I personally love 240 wagons.

[SCOTT26]

Originally Posted by imserious

Like a few people mentioned, BMW should make a Z4M and a supercar / hypercar. The latter would further bolster the sporting image BMW boasts vs. its competition. BMW should continue playing to its strengths not just filling every niche product category. These are not economy cars after all. There is an element of desireability that you need to maintain.

BMW already has a sporting image without a halo car but we have a halo car it's called the i8 and it is the most progressive interpretation of a sports car concept but is entirely different in every aspect. I have one for evaluation and parked alongside a Veyron in Geneva the past weekend.

Which car pulled the most crowds?

Niche products are essential because that is where new customers lie.
No and I repeat No manufacturer can overlook products that generate new customers, which is why the competition are now developing models for niche markets.

BMW are not economy but Premium. They are also participating in a global market not just North America.
But in order to maintain market share we do offer premium economy models because these are the biggest sellers of their respective segments cars such as the 320d and 520d are sold to not only customers but government and business fleets.

[advantage20]

Originally Posted by BVSEDJESUS

how about bringing back the 8 series

8 Series Coupe, Cabrio and Gran Coupe are planned according to Scott.

[qdtjant]

The i8 looks very nice i silver.

[Eau Rouge]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

BMW already has a sporting image without a halo car but we have a halo car it's called the i8 and it is the most progressive interpretation of a sports car concept but is entirely different in every aspect. I have one for evaluation and parked alongside a Veyron in Geneva the past weekend.

Which car pulled the most crowds?

Niche products are essential because that is where new customers lie.
No and I repeat No manufacturer can overlook products that generate new customers, which is why the competition are now developing models for niche markets.

BMW are not economy but Premium. They are also participating in a global market not just North America.
But in order to maintain market share we do offer premium economy models because these are the biggest sellers of their respective segments cars such as the 320d and 520d are sold to not only customers but government and business fleets.

Are the new customers being targeted with the i8 those that currently own or will shop the Tesla S, Fisker Karma, Audi R8 e-tron and MB AMG SLS E-cell or is the target demographic more ambitious?

[qdtjant]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Global sales of the 3er GT has exceed initial projection for 2013. Once we have two years of sales to look at whether it has been successful or otherwise then we can go ahead or not go ahead with the concept.

The 3er GT is sold in all global markets and this is where its success is coming from. Perhaps you would like to visit the F34 thread where we already have a core forum who have purchased that car.

The car has been presented to the BMW board this past week.
If you like the 3er GT M-Sport then you will like the M3 GT it has been M orientated with broader wheel arches and a similar aero packet albeit slightly amended because of the 3er GT's height. The 3er GT's facia stays the same.

How did the BMW Board like the M3 GT ?