I installed the öhlins R&T, car no longer pulls to the right (short review)

[MadZarBMR]

Originally Posted by anglo

I've been playing with the settings, 20 clicks from full firm front and 23 clicks from full firm rear achieved the smoothest ride, with amazing handling still.
EDC is a waste of money!

Cool - hope you don't mind sharing your alignment sheet once you have it done.

Like AustinTrkJunkie I am also starting to believe our issue is more about EPS than suspension. I've sent an e-mail to my SA asking them to diagnose this further under warranty.

[The Choosey begger]

Originally Posted by MadZarBMR

Cool - hope you don't mind sharing your alignment sheet once you have it done.

Like AustinTrkJunkie I am also starting to believe our issue is more about EPS than suspension. I've sent an e-mail to my SA asking them to diagnose this further under warranty.

Will do!

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by anglo

I've been playing with the settings, 20 clicks from full firm front and 23 clicks from full firm rear achieved the smoothest ride, with amazing handling still.
EDC is a waste of money!

Wow, you are really on the soft side.

I'm 12 clicks from full stiff. That is about perfect for me.

When I had them installed, they did them backwards and I was almost at full soft and the shocks were overpowered by the springs.

[The Choosey begger]

Originally Posted by BitchinManWheels

Did you adjust the caster compared to stock?
That's the only adjustment I have not made in my car.
I have the Dinan suspension and GC plates, car still pulling right.

Camber only, the car has plenty of caster stock.

When i had the GC control plates with the stock shocks the car still pulled the right.

The car is level but i set the height of the right front side at about half an inch than the left.

I haven't corner balanced the car yet but ballparked it based on my E92 M3, the right side had to be set at about half an inch higher.

[The Choosey begger]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

Wow, you are really on the soft side.

I'm 12 clicks from full stiff. That is about perfect for me.

When I had them installed, they did them backwards and I was almost at full soft and the shocks were overpowered by the springs.

I set the suspension based on how the car reacts to bumps. Try it!

Still not too far off the 10-20 clicks Öhlins recommends for street.

[AustinTrkJunkie]

Quick update on this end, just spoke to BMW NA and they are scheduling an engineer to come look at the car in the next couple of weeks. Relayed and stressed that I do not believe this is a alignment issue, rather something with the EPS.

we'll see what happens from here!

[HP Autosport]

Originally Posted by wzj519

Is OP's car installed with 672 LB rate spring?

Yes, that is correct.

[BitchinManWheels]

Originally Posted by anglo

Camber only, the car has plenty of caster stock.

When i had the GC control plates with the stock shocks the car still pulled the right.

The car is level but i set the height of the right front side at about half an inch than the left.

I haven't corner balanced the car yet but ballparked it based on my E92 M3, the right side had to be set at about half an inch higher.

I know this is a long running joke here but what tire pressures are you running? I noticed when my pressures are low that my car pulls harder to the right.

[The Choosey begger]

Originally Posted by BitchinManWheels

I know this is a long running joke here but what tire pressures are you running? I noticed when my pressures are low that my car pulls harder to the right.

38 psi

[The Choosey begger]

Just had the alignment done

Front
Camber -3.5
Toe 0

Rear
Camber -1.9
About 1/8 inch toe in rear, unchanged from stock.

[The Choosey begger]

The other thing i noticed about the Öhlins now is how much lighter the car feels.

Also nice, not having to fight the car pulling to the right constantly.

[MadZarBMR]

Originally Posted by anglo

Just had the alignment done

Front
Camber -3.5
Toe 0

Rear
Camber -1.9
About 1/8 inch toe in rear, unchanged from stock.

thanks - that is lot of front camber. Is that how it was on stock?

[gavinsan]

Anglo overall are you happy with the new set up and how much of a difference does it feel to the OEM set up ?

[The Choosey begger]

Originally Posted by gavinsan

Anglo overall are you happy with the new set up and how much of a difference does it feel to the OEM set up ?

Yes, better than OEM and also better than TC Kline konis.

Handles better, rides smoother than stock. Also the car is putting down power better than oem in comfort mode.

[The Choosey begger]

Originally Posted by MadZarBMR

thanks - that is lot of front camber. Is that how it was on stock?

Same alignment i had before on stock suspension and camber plates.

That's my track/autocross alignment.

The car is still going straight even when i dial the front camber back to -2.0 .

[HP Autosport]

Originally Posted by anglo

Yes, better than OEM and also better than TC Kline konis.

Handles better, rides smoother than stock. Also the car is putting down power better than oem in comfort mode.

Had no idea you had TC Kline coilovers, was it the single or the double adjustable?

How would you compare the damping between the TCKR and the Ohlins. I know the TCKR rides better than OE and Ohlins is better than that with the spring rates you chose? How does the Ohlins handle bumps and transitions vs TCKR?

[The Choosey begger]

Originally Posted by HP Autosport

Had no idea you had TC Kline coilovers, was it the single or the double adjustable?

How would you compare the damping between the TCKR and the Ohlins. I know the TCKR rides better than OE and Ohlins is better than that with the spring rates you chose? How does the Ohlins handle bumps and transitions vs TCKR?

I had the DA's on my E92 M3 i purchased directly from TC,
The TCKR were also great, was smoother than OE, improved my times by 2 seconds or so but on a long stretch of bumps eventually would get unsettled even over the train tracks.

The Ohlins feel like you're floating over successive bumps, even train tracks. It's like you're driving a Buick that handles like a track car.
I can also come with power much sooner without Euro MDM intervening, with the custom rear spring rates.

[HP Autosport]

Originally Posted by anglo

I had the DA's on my E92 M3 i purchased directly from TC,
The TCKR were also great, was smoother than OE, improved my times by 2 seconds or so but on a long stretch of bumps eventually would get unsettled even over the train tracks.

The Ohlins feel like you're floating over successive bumps, even train tracks. It's like you're driving a Buick that handles like a track car.
I can also come with power much sooner without Euro MDM intervening, with the custom rear spring rates.

It's likely the twin tube design not able to keep up. The larger piston in the monotone design and Ohlins DFV will handle multiple bumps well.

Did you notice any shock fade(decrease in damping capabilities) after a long drive or towards the end of a track session?

[The Choosey begger]

Originally Posted by HP Autosport

It's likely the twin tube design not able to keep up. The larger piston in the monotone design and Ohlins DFV will handle multiple bumps well.

Did you notice any shock fade(decrease in damping capabilities) after a long drive or towards the end of a track session?

At 20 clicks from firm, the kit is pretty consistent.

Even when i had my TCKR, they were on the softer side and ran my best times.
Some people think firmer = better performance, not necessarily, a lot variables, how smooth the track is, what tires.

That's what TC told me years ago and i believe him based on my times.

[HP Autosport]

Originally Posted by anglo

At 20 clicks from firm, the kit is pretty consistent.

Even when i had my TCKR, they were on the softer side and ran my best times.
Some people think firmer = better performance, not necessarily, a lot variables, how smooth the track is, what tires.

That's what TC told me years ago and i believe him based on my times.

Stiffer is not better. Softer means more grip.

There is a reason why TC use one of the lowest spring rates in the industry.

[Fast4d]

I don't want to lower my car. Can ohlins spec springs for OEM ride height?

[The Choosey begger]

Originally Posted by Fast4d

I don't want to lower my car. Can ohlins spec springs for OEM ride height?

You can adjust the coilovers to stock height. I lowered the car an inch all around, it looks stock yet.