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I track my car a couple times a year and for the most part, the steel brakes on my E92 were sufficient. That being said, on my last track day I was really pushing it and did start to experience dangerous levels of fade.
I might be willing to spend the extra $ for the CCBs however, a few things have me concerned and will be determining factors for me such as: 1. Confirmation if they ARE or ARE NOT covered by BMW Warranty. If not, then no way I am getting them. 2. I live in Denver and drive my car as much as I can when it is not snowing. Since CCBs generally need a good amount of heat to be really effective; I wonder if I am going to have problems with them on cold days or in light snow? Can anybody speak to these issues?
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the new m3 brakes appear to be much stronger and better from the factory (4 piston / 2 piston design) and with a race pad will be more than anyone would need. carbon ceramic brakes will also need a race pad and higher temp fluid, so there is no benefit there either.
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Agree with what most everyone has said in this thread - only reason to get CCBs is for bling. They do look nice, but I wouldn't put that kind of premium on appearance alone - though I'm certain others will.
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The rotor is there to absorb the heat. The pad is what becomes affected by the heat. A street brake pad is a street brake pad. CCBs don't use some magically pad that is affected and acts differently than a pad on normal steel rotors. |
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This is not even close to true. Anyone serious about the track goes with aftermarket front rotors. The ceramics may be a good OEM solution, but people are unsure about the longevity. It's definitely longer than steel brakes. It has to be 2-3x longer to justify the replacement cost of the 2 piece rings.
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I actually track my m3, as do a lot of people here in texas and you absolutely do not need to have aftermarket BBK in the front. many people like it and a big reason for a BBK is for easier pad swaps since with stoptech you don't need to remove the caliper. others like it for the bling.
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Should I, I kinda want them but idk. Seems like it would be a large upgrade to driving experience. I'm still sure they are not covered under warranty. And if they aren't how much are they to replace?
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this has been discussed here a LOT
there are not really an upgrade on the track. sure they feel better for a few laps, but they have a lot of drawbacks as far as track durability and being prone to damage. as everyone is aware, they are very expensive to fix there is absolutely no way I would buy ceramic brakes on this car. for the price, they make no sense, and help put the car into a price bracket it isn't as competitive in
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Not sure about the carbon rotors, but the ones on my current car are pretty durable. No chips after so many wheel swaps and I do them all the time and believe it or not its hard not to touch the rotor with a 70 pound wheel/tire.
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Carbon and steel are two very different materials.
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I am not sure if the rotors are ceramic. Looking at the cars, it seems only the pads are some sort of a ceramic composite. The rotors look like a two piece steel rotors.
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