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Nor have I ever had a leather problem with any BMW or Audi in 20 years. What the fuck are you doing to your leather? |
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How many miles is your car? Mine is about at 30k miles, if your drivers seat is in better condition than mine, I'll buy you a steak dinner. I'm at Ruth's Chris in Pasadena tonite, or another nite in the OC, let me know.
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If you bounce your back side into the bolster every time you get into the car the the painted leather will crack and tear under the stress. But hey it's your car and your money, so if it makes you happy to buy a product then good for you. I have an 11 year old Z4c with very soft individual nappa leather that I've owned from new, the leather has always been cleaned but never conditioned (because you can't condition a painted leather as you'll never get to the leather) and it's as soft as the day I bought the car.
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I've experienced with a lot of company leased bmw's before in my past life and they were all not taken care of and the leather bolsters were all worn after 3 years of driving. Seeing just the number of threads discussing leather wear should tell you all you need to know.
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I'm not in the OC this week but next time I am I'll settle for drinks and poke outside at Las Brisas in Laguna Beach. |
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I took one before sundown. Check out my bolsters- beat this! Mileage: 29,929
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Here is a close up of my wife's gs350 f sport seats (untreated) shot with an iphone with flash- you can see the leather is starting to tear by the seams, nevermind the number of cracks:
This is a picture of my 30,000 mile m3 driver side bolster (treated) with an iphone and flash: Here's her passenger side bolster (untreated) to compare how similar her nappa leather texture is to our m3 and what it looked like with less wear: This is her mileage which is less than mine:
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Hey man, my ocd helped me retire at 39 with constant revenue, never touching my savings.
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Did u have something to say about seats?
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I don't see any 'cracks', I see normal creases which is desirable to me, and I also don't see any tears or anything starting to tear. Are you thinking the leather should never crease? Because if so, that's called "fabric". Leather is supposed to crease like your skin, which is what makes it soft and supple and desirable. Non-creased leather is fundamentally not "broken in" and unyielding. Seems like you want leather to behave like fabric which is the opposite of why you get leather. Great leather, like on a coat or a couch, should have a patina and be creased, feeling butter smooth to the touch. Auto leather will likely never have that because it's not analine, still creasing should be desirable. |
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Soft, supple. No sag, no tears. Well used and oiled on occasion.
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Ideally this is what my auto seats should look like, but I'm off leather and would rather have fabric Also, this is what leather cracking (bad) looks like versus above and your pictures which is desirable leather creasing Plus this is super cheap leather - the painted surface coat should never do this and you can see how in the pics above this would never happen (nor in any of the pics you posted)
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I try to keep things like they were when I bought the car, good for the next guy, except i stomp the gas a lot. Anyways, always down for you to cover the poke and drinks. btw, if people think bmw nappa leather is matte, see x5m bmw pic:
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