02-29-2012, 07:21 AM | #68 |
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A little bird chirped just that it should be the next M3 engine is a further development of the S65. But it's not the standard version, but from which the GTS!
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02-29-2012, 08:28 AM | #69 |
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Loving those rear fender flares.
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02-29-2012, 08:51 AM | #70 | |
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With that in mind, and knowing the sedan is obviously slated to continue to wear the M3 moniker, I really can't imagine them deciding to put the M3 name on the coupe instead of the M4 name. Add to that the fact that I'll bet almost no one cares if they change the oft-derided convertible to M4, consider that a good bet too, so now we are up to two M4 body styles. At that point, putting the M3 name on the coupe begins to sound somewhat ridiculous, to me at least. Granted there's a lot speculation in all of that, but does anyone really see the momentum headed in any other direction? |
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02-29-2012, 09:14 AM | #71 |
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And there is an rumor, that where the M3 gets wide round fenders, the M4 gets wide squared fenders with an flat top ... like the old E30 M3.
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02-29-2012, 09:16 AM | #72 | |
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I wrote several posts expressing my dislike of the ///M badge being put in a lot more places. But they're going to go ahead with it anyway. And "people in the know" keep saying the "real" M cars will continue to stand out, and that these "halfway" M cars will be deserving of some distinction. Ok, I will wait and see.
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02-29-2012, 10:06 AM | #74 | |
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M Performance is the next best thing - The alternative. And in general interest and first orders, the F11 550d xDrive Touring is leading the pack. In a way it is a money grab because M has to sustain itself in the long term and if BMW M Performance cars make M more specialised and experimental, then it will be worth it in the end.
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02-29-2012, 10:22 AM | #75 |
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02-29-2012, 10:25 AM | #76 | |
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The E9x M3 needed the power dome for clearance around the engine, function before form in that case. If the new car doesn't have an engine clearance issue under the hood, why bother putting a power dome on it? Is it just for it to look more powerful? Doing that would make it form before function.
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02-29-2012, 10:25 AM | #77 | |
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Turbos aside, what are some of the key differences between the 4.4L S65 in the GTS/CRT and the S63?
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02-29-2012, 10:37 AM | #78 | |
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And Uli's comment about the M4 getting different styling treatment from the M3 (square fenders vs. round fenders, among other differences) coincide with Scott's earlier statements about BMW wanting to separate the two cars even more with this forthcoming generation. If the two cars are going to look markedly different, then it stands to reason that they be called something different as well. Unfortunately, I think that separation will be reflected in the price difference too, if the 30% gap between the M5 and M6 sticker price is any indication.
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This will be out just in time to trade in my boss. Although If its only marginally quicker than an e90m then I'll pass.... But forced induction and lighter weight looks promising
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02-29-2012, 11:13 AM | #81 |
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With more power, and certainly gobs more torque along with less weight, how could it be anything but a good bit quicker than the E9x?
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02-29-2012, 01:12 PM | #83 | |
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...And as others have said the factory difference in torque will be big! |
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02-29-2012, 02:46 PM | #87 | |
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//M badges= more $$$. However, a person must admit that BMW will upgrades few components here and there. Take for example The E46 ZHP model. Cams have been upgraded, suspension components, shifter, SW, etc... |
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