Drove 2019 RS5 coupe

[SMGCFP]

I drove this car today. Here are my impressions and my perceptions based on a 20 minute test drive and a close up look at the car.

I think the Audi's doors feel heavier, as does the whole car. The car is quieter inside, but you can hear the exhaust when you accelerate. The road noise seems quieter. All in all, the Audi is a better touring car. The technology (gadgets) are cool.

The Audi seemingly had more body roll, and the seats, while comfortable (they massage you), are not as well side bolstered as the M4.

My lease is up in less than a month, and I may look at the C63S. I liked the Audi more than I thought I would.

The sunroof sucks though. I don't think the carbon fiber roof is an option.

[LOW4LYF]

Do you have any numbers already for the C63S?

[cotmfk]

Were you able to stay awake through the whole test drive?

[SMGCFP]

Originally Posted by LOW4LYF

Do you have any numbers already for the C63S?

No. The numbers matter, and I know the MB leases like crap (wife has GLE43). I'll get numbers if I decide I want that car. I really don't know yet.

[SMGCFP]

Originally Posted by cotmfk

Were you able to stay awake through the whole test drive?

Yeah, lol. It was only 20 min. I want an M4 with M5 technology. I should probably just buy mine and get a new M4 in 2022.

[SMGCFP]

Thought about it more, and drove my car for about an hour today. I think I want to keep my car, or get a 2020 if it makes more financial sense. The body roll thing is something I can't get out of my head. The car stuck fine, but I felt thrown around.

[NickyC]

Originally Posted by SMGCFP

Yeah, lol. It was only 20 min. I want an M4 with M5 technology. I should probably just buy mine and get a new M4 in 2022.

Winner.

[rnp614]

Originally Posted by SMGCFP

I drove this car today. Here are my impressions and my perceptions based on a 20 minute test drive and a close up look at the car.

I think the Audi's doors feel heavier, as does the whole car. The car is quieter inside, but you can hear the exhaust when you accelerate. The road noise seems quieter. All in all, the Audi is a better touring car. The technology (gadgets) are cool.

The Audi seemingly had more body roll, and the seats, while comfortable (they massage you), are not as well side bolstered as the M4.

My lease is up in less than a month, and I may look at the C63S. I liked the Audi more than I thought I would.

The sunroof sucks though. I don't think the carbon fiber roof is an option.

The B8.5 RS5 is a better drive outside of the older tech...

[nicknaz]

How about trying TTRS?

[CSanto]

Audi is More Luxury than BMW
You subtract 2 points from performance and add one for build quality and add one to luxury

[cotmfk]

Originally Posted by CSanto

Audi is More Luxury than BMW
You subtract 2 points from performance and add one for build quality and add one to luxury

IDK about adding a point to build quality. It seems all the Germans have their faults. Audi's seems to be little stupid stuff breaking (like the plastic bit that holds the sun visor in place, little knobs randomly coming off here and there, etc), and motors blowing.

[Fuller]

Originally Posted by cotmfk

IDK about adding a point to build quality. It seems all the Germans have their faults. Audi's seems to be little stupid stuff breaking (like the plastic bit that holds the sun visor in place, little knobs randomly coming off here and there, etc), and motors blowing.

All of that sounds far worse to me. At least, in my experience, bmw interiors don't seem to have breaking knobs and what not, even if they don't exactly feel luxurious.

[georgere]

I am in the same boat. Although I own my f80 m3, I have been thinking about upgrade and after driving everything comparable I decided to go up market to 911 or some crazy SUV (x6 category), i have 2 kids to drive around do utility must exist even the spartan one. In my opinion, BMW,despite all the negatives we are saying on this forum, is really making decent cars with decent quality and superior performance over their competitors. You learn this after thoughtful comparison and testing.

[G35POPPEDMYCHERRY]

What more luxury do you want in the f80? only thing I would want is cooled seats. other than that. I put on music sometimes and drive the car.

[OF Hero]

Originally Posted by G35POPPEDMYCHERRY

What more luxury do you want in the f80? only thing I would want is cooled seats. other than that. I put on music sometimes and drive the car.

Well said!

[georgere]

Originally Posted by G35POPPEDMYCHERRY

What more luxury do you want in the f80? only thing I would want is cooled seats. other than that. I put on music sometimes and drive the car.

I agree on cooling seats as needed. I would add elimination of body roll.

[AWE46M3]

recently had a 2019 M Sport 330i loaner. Interior tech is def next level stuff compared to the F80. if your not much of a track guy, i think the M340i is worth a look. C63 on the other hand was disappointing when i drove it for a week, on top, AMG leases suck.

[afadeev]

Originally Posted by G35POPPEDMYCHERRY

What more luxury do you want in the f80?

Here is my list:

1. Non-creaking interior. Every other car I buy manages to control interior creaking with age better than BMWs. Sadly, F80 is no exception.
2. Delete i-Drive and the last-second glued tiny screen on top of the dash; add any modern touch-screen UI for entertainment/nav systems (copy Tesla, Lexus, Acura, etc).
3. Add at least a Tesla-quality autopilot (or better) to mitigate the daily commute drudgery.

Originally Posted by G35POPPEDMYCHERRY

only thing I would want is cooled seats. other than that. I put on music sometimes and drive the car.

Cooled seats are not bad, but not that special either.
I have them in my Honda, but not in a Tesla, nor BMW. Don't really miss them.

I do miss quality audio in M3 (have HK, still meah), and Android Auto support in BMWs.

Originally Posted by CSanto

Audi is More Luxury than BMW
You subtract 2 points from performance and add one for build quality and add one to luxury

I don't know about subtracting anything for performance. RS5 does 0-60 in 3.8 seconds with an engine that produces more torque and HP than S55, even with Competition pack.

RS5 is about +$5K on M4 (M3 is now n/a), and is +400 lbs heavier.
It does feel more luxurious and upscale on the inside.

Dealer only had 1 instock, already pre-sold, so I did not get to test drive it.
I did test drive RS3, and it was surprisingly fun. Crappier interior than RS5 (similar to M2 vs. M4), but a very pleasant surprise for $56K MSRP.

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[Humdizzle]

My f80 doesn't creak at all. I have the Teflon tape in the door jams though. I did the same in my old F30 and it solved the issue

Audio quality is fine. I have found it better with a direct source like a flash drive loaded with 320kbps quality tracks. You aren't going to have much quality with streaming services like Sirius.

Of course its not going to be as good as the benz or audi bang&olufsen or Mark Levinson systems . those cars are heavier and loaded with sound deadening. (My Ferrari has some ridiculous stereo option but guess what... its pointless because the engine invades the cabin once you start it). The audi and benz are more luxury than sport. 0-60 is pointless. watch a review on how bad the RS5 understeers through corners. its over 500 pounds more than an M3 lol.

as for a touch screen. I've been in a tesla and its pretty. But I like the I-drive just fine since I can use it without having to sit up or move to reach the screen. I think it would be especially cumbersome to use a touch screen with a manual transmission