Top Gear Race: M3 vs Tesla Model 3 Performance vs C63 vs Giulia Q

[Franco3000]

The Mercedes is impressive, so is the Tesla

[McLaren720s]

It was obvious from the start the M3 is going to be last considering the horsepower deficit compared to the rivals. Testa is about the same hp but AWD + instant torque + no gears = win in a straight line.
The C63s is a beast!

Around the track I predict winner will be Giulia > Tesla > M3 > C63S. I wouldn’t be surprised if Tesla would win around the track too.

Competition has gotten really crazy. I hope BMW has something up their sleeve with the next M3.

[nicknaz]

It’s so easy to serve up a side of Gapplesauce at stoplights in a model 3P

Glad Chris made it a 1/2 mile drag race

Is there hot lapping later in that episode?

[ZCD1]

Originally Posted by nicknaz

It’s so easy to serve up a side of Gapplesauce at stoplights in a model 3P

Glad Chris made it a 1/2 mile drag race

Is there hot lapping later in that episode?

They show the results of a handling course competition between the Tesla and the Alfa, and then show the Top Gear track time.

The entire episode is now available on BBC America.

[SflBimmer8484]

Tesla is a beast. The battery percentage was at 50% so it had a little less power than usual.

[nicknaz]

Originally Posted by ZCD1

They show the results of a handling course competition between the Tesla and the Alfa, and then show the Top Gear track time.

The entire episode is now available on BBC America.

So, looking at wiki,

Model 3 1:21.5
Guilia 1:21.4
F80 1:21.6

And outside of competitive set but 718 S 1:21.6

Driver’s race

[ZCD1]

FWIW - on the shorter handling course they set up, the Model 3 beat the Giulia by 0.5 seconds.

Also, one of my favorite lines from the entire test was “...of course in the real world, the others wouldn’t see which way the Tesla WENT!” 😎

[SflBimmer8484]

Originally Posted by ZCD1

FWIW - on the shorter handling course they set up, the Model 3 beat the Giulia by 0.5 seconds.

Also, one of my favorite lines from the entire test was “...of course in the real world, the others wouldn’t see which way the Tesla WENT!” 😎

Think ill be picking up a model 3 performance. Wish it had a little more power after 70 though.

[ZCD1]

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

Think ill be picking up a model 3 performance. Wish it had a little more power after 70 though.

Cool - if you really do it, let us know how you like it.

FWIW, it hits 100 mph in the mid-8 second range, and it's really not until about 110 where the acceleration begins to tail off noticeably.

Passing on 2-lane highways is ridiculous fun!

[SflBimmer8484]

Originally Posted by ZCD1

Cool - if you really do it, let us know how you like it.

FWIW, it hits 100 mph in the mid-8 second range, and it's really not until about 110 where the acceleration begins to tail off noticeably.

Passing on 2-lane highways is ridiculous fun!

I drove a model 3 with performance software so it did not have the brakes suspension or the wheels. I found it extremely fun at low speed but I could feel the acceleration quickly slow down after 60. This is my only concern as I drive a 575 whp f80 m3 right now with a 70% highway commute. My 60-130 times are insane and all I could ever ask for when it comes to danger/excitement.

Not sure Im ready to give up the sounds and high speed acceleration just yet but unfortunately my lease is coming to an end in December and my buy out is pretty high since I got an incredible lease rate. Ideally I would like to get into the new m3 but that wont be released in time .

Every time I get stuck in traffic I wish I was back in autopilot making the Tesla a very good choice.

[nicknaz]

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

I drove a model 3 with performance software so it did not have the brakes suspension or the wheels. I found it extremely fun at low speed but I could feel the acceleration quickly slow down after 60. This is my only concern as I drive a 575 whp f80 m3 right now with a 70% highway commute. My 60-130 times are insane and all I could ever ask for when it comes to danger/excitement.

Not sure Im ready to give up the sounds and high speed acceleration just yet but unfortunately my lease is coming to an end in December and my buy out is pretty high since I got an incredible lease rate. Ideally I would like to get into the new m3 but that wont be released in time .

Every time I get stuck in traffic I wish I was back in autopilot making the Tesla a very good choice.

How often are you doing 60-130 pulls?

One of my friends sold his 700hp e63 with resonator delete (eg similar ballpark as your f80) to get model 3P and is very happy with it.

Yes it’s nice to have epic 60-130 but he didn’t use it much but he uses autopilot daily multiple times a day and is happy with the move.

I hear you though, model 3P isn’t the car for highway roll racing shenanigans

[SflBimmer8484]

Originally Posted by nicknaz

How often are you doing 60-130 pulls?

One of my friends sold his 700hp e63 with resonator delete (eg similar ballpark as your f80) to get model 3P and is very happy with it.

Yes it’s nice to have epic 60-130 but he didn’t use it much but he uses autopilot daily multiple times a day and is happy with the move.

I hear you though, model 3P isn’t the car for highway roll racing shenanigans

I'd say a few times a day just to get my blood pumping or to mess with other cars on the street. I guess those days of downshifting and driving at high rpm will be gone since no one will even know I want to play around as ill be in silence.

The autopilot has me sold. Its so good!

[nicknaz]

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

I'd say a few times a day just to get my blood pumping or to mess with other cars on the street. I guess those days of downshifting and driving at high rpm will be gone since no one will even know I want to play around as ill be in silence.

The autopilot has me sold. Its so good!

130mph on the daily?! Wow.

Not to be a Debbie downer but please be careful. You could find yourself being charged with felony speeding or reckless if caught and that is going to require some serious lawyering up $$$$

Good thing you’re getting a model 3

A side benefit about the silence is you can use the full throttle a LOT more in low speed conditions. Corner exit shenanigans will replace your high speed roll shenanigans.

[SflBimmer8484]

We have many good open and straight highway roads here in miami to do 160+ in a fast car. 130 from 80 or so only takes a few seconds and then its hard on the brakes. It would be nice to have low end speed to replace the high speed.

You see these new raven motors?

[nicknaz]

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

We have many good open and straight highway roads here in miami to do 160+ in a fast car. 130 from 80 or so only takes a few seconds and then its hard on the brakes. It would be nice to have low end speed to replace the high speed.

You see these new raven motors?

Aren’t those motors basically putting in model 3 motors into model s and x ?

[SflBimmer8484]

Originally Posted by nicknaz

Aren’t those motors basically putting in model 3 motors into model s and x ?

I don't think so. If it is the 3 has alot of power left on the table. The new model s put down 127mph in the 1/4 off the track.

[2011zx10R]

The Tesla could do 0 to 60 in one second; It's just not appealing to me.

Now that "performance playing field is level" it's about what you like.

When I see a Tesla on the road I have zero connection to that car.

Benze if I went the automatic transmission route.

[PK1]

Originally Posted by 2011zx10R

The Tesla could do 0 to 60 in one second; It's just not appealing to me.

Now that "performance playing field is level" it's about what you like.

When I see a Tesla on the road I have zero connection to that car.

Benze if I went the automatic transmission route.

I looked at both Tesla models S and 3 along with a few other makes of cars last year before I ended up with my M3, so obviously I liked the Bimmer more.

That said, and if you haven't already done so, do yourself a favor and go drive a Model S Performance in ludicrous mode. It's very entertaining!!

[shortseller]

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

Think ill be picking up a model 3 performance. Wish it had a little more power after 70 though.

And maybe a touch better looking front end/bumper, like close to what they did with the new up coming roadster out in 2020.

[2011zx10R]

Originally Posted by PK1

I looked at both Tesla models S and 3 along with a few other makes of cars last year before I ended up with my M3, so obviously I liked the Bimmer more.

That said, and if you haven't already done so, do yourself a favor and go drive a Model S Performance in ludicrous mode. It's very entertaining!!

Definitely going to do that...

Satisfy my curiosity.

I tell ya what though...

When I got to the Mall and I see the cars plugged in and the owners sitting there reading a magazine, it gives me anxiety.

if I had the budget for an expensive 100% commuter car then perhaps; my commute is 15 minutes.
(I Daily my 06 GTI and occasionally the M3)

Tesla is not a car I'd do a road trip with or have as a weekend fun car.