Waterless Wash Products - Yay or Nay?

[Graves]

Originally Posted by vip

For those who have been using clearshine, do you wash down the car with a normal car wash soap and then do the clearshine or does clearshine replace the carwash process?

It replaces it. Just follow the directions. Spray it on, gently wipe off, spray a little more and buff. Shit works great man. It encapsulates the dirt.

[vip]

Originally Posted by Graves

It replaces it. Just follow the directions. Spray it on, gently wipe off, spray a little more and buff. Shit works great man. It encapsulates the dirt.

Haha okay thanks. How long does that 32oz bottle typically last? I'm also looking at Wet Coat as well from a coating perspective.

[Graves]

Originally Posted by vip

Haha okay thanks. How long does that 32oz bottle typically last? I'm also looking at Wet Coat as well from a coating perspective.

The bottle is kind of small. I use a lot of it. For your first time, you will use almost the whole bottle because of the clay bar process. But after that, maybe a half a bottle or 3/4 each use. It really depends on the user and how dirty the car is. If it's just dusty, you won't use very much.

Check out Opti-Coat pro for sealent purposes.

[louielouie]

Originally Posted by Eric S

My 2cents..

If the car is coated, a waterless wash is easier and more manageable.

With that said, I would never waterless wash a car that was driven for a week a lot, nor wipe down a dirty car from sitting, etc.

A pressure pre-rinse would make things MUCH better when doing a waterless wash wipedown, but then there goes the water"less" part alebeit its less water used than a conventional wash.

Wheels = only a pressure wash cleaning if coated. if not coated, daily maintenance on them. If they are ceramic pads and produce less brake dust, any routine maintenance will work. ceramic pads with a coated wheel = easiest way to maintain the wheels.


in a nutshell, there are rare occasions where a WL wash is suitable for me.

Is there an issue with pressure washing non-coated wheels? My wash regimen includes pressure washer prerinse > Iron-X > Woolie agitation w/ wheel soap > pressure washer rinse. I usually only Iron-X every 2 weeks, but I do wash or maintenance wash (generally) every weekend.

[Poiseuille]

I have TzB and I'm way too chicken to attempt waterless on that

[Graves]

Clearshine Waterless Wash at it again.

[r0wr]

Originally Posted by Graves

The bottle is kind of small. I use a lot of it. For your first time, you will use almost the whole bottle because of the clay bar process. But after that, maybe a half a bottle or 3/4 each use. It really depends on the user and how dirty the car is. If it's just dusty, you won't use very much.

Check out Opti-Coat pro for sealent purposes.

Isn't a bottle close to $15? Seems expensive for a DIY wash.

[vip]

Originally Posted by Graves

Clearshine Waterless Wash at it again.

haven't tried my clearshine bottle yet, but hope to in the next few weeks. im testing out another similar waterless wash. yours looks good tho

[imcpa]

Clearshine Waterless Wash at it again.

Do you use the Clearshine on your rims and tires too????

[Graves]

Originally Posted by vip

haven't tried my clearshine bottle yet, but hope to in the next few weeks. im testing out another similar waterless wash. yours looks good tho

Yeah buddy. Love this stuff. I use it more as my back up. I have another that I use on a more permanent basis, it just doesn't shine as well if you ask me.

Originally Posted by imcpa

Do you use the Clearshine on your rims and tires too????

I do! I use their tire dressing for the rubber.

[Eric S]

Originally Posted by louielouie

Is there an issue with pressure washing non-coated wheels? My wash regimen includes pressure washer prerinse > Iron-X > Woolie agitation w/ wheel soap > pressure washer rinse. I usually only Iron-X every 2 weeks, but I do wash or maintenance wash (generally) every weekend.

I meant you can get away with pressure washer only on coated wheels (especially with modesta BC06 in our experience) with the occasional sonax treatment instead of the bi-weekly sonax treatment. We have clients whos cars we maintain monthly. Their wheels are done with VERY minimal effort since they are coated. Other cars that do not have the wheels coated take more effort to clean thoroughly

[r0wr]

Originally Posted by Eric S

I meant you can get away with pressure washer only on coated wheels (especially with modesta BC06 in our experience) with the occasional sonax treatment instead of the bi-weekly sonax treatment. We have clients whos cars we maintain monthly. Their wheels are done with VERY minimal effort since they are coated. Other cars that do not have the wheels coated take more effort to clean thoroughly

Can coatings on wheel be DIY'd effectively? If not, how much does it cost?

[Graves]

Mmmm

[gatorfast]

Damn that is shiny

[Eric S]

Originally Posted by r0wr

Can coatings on wheel be DIY'd effectively? If not, how much does it cost?

what do you mean?

Can you apply a coating yourself? Yes, there are a few DIY type that are simpler to do (can still mess them up)
There are stronger and more effective PRO versions that you need to take somewhere.

If you are talking can you maintain the wheels with Waterless, I have serious reservations about that as you are essentially dragging metal shavings, road debris, etc across the wheels. I'd coat and then still use a pressure washer instead

[clutchdj]

Can anyone (that has used both) compare the clearshine product to CGWW? I like CG product but would like to get something like it that does not have the wax in it.

[r0wr]

Originally Posted by Eric S

what do you mean?

Can you apply a coating yourself? Yes, there are a few DIY type that are simpler to do (can still mess them up)
There are stronger and more effective PRO versions that you need to take somewhere.

If you are talking can you maintain the wheels with Waterless, I have serious reservations about that as you are essentially dragging metal shavings, road debris, etc across the wheels. I'd coat and then still use a pressure washer instead

Appreciate your response. I was asking whether or not Ceramic coatings can be done effectively and easily as a DIY. I would not be using waterless wash to clean them. Pressure washer seems to make sense in case given what you mentioned.

[Graves]

Originally Posted by gatorfast

Damn that is shiny

Thanks. Clearshine with Opti-Coat Hyper Seal.

[Graves]

Originally Posted by clutchdj

Can anyone (that has used both) compare the clearshine product to CGWW? I like CG product but would like to get something like it that does not have the wax in it.

Clearshine does not have any sort of wax in it. It's a nano technology. Somewhat seals the car but not really. The stuff is awesome!

[gatorfast]

I have been using clearshine for a while but a few months back I bought some chemical guys ecosmart to try out. Now that I have used it several times I think I make a fair comparison.

The ecosmart has wax in it which the clearshine does not. This makes wiping it off more challenging and I find that I need to buff it more to ensure there is no hazing. The clearshine however is super easy to use and buffs off with ease. However, while the ecosmart takes a little more effort I will say that the wax layer is really an added bonus and helps to keep the car cleaner longer. After a week of commuting with the typical dust near my office and some rain my car is noticeably cleaner with the ecosmart than it is with clearshine.

I'll still continue to use both but once my batch of clearshine is used up i may just stick with the ecosmart which is much cheaper and seems to protect better.

[r0wr]

Originally Posted by gatorfast

I have been using clearshine for a while but a few months back I bought some chemical guys ecosmart to try out. Now that I have used it several times I think I make a fair comparison.

The ecosmart has wax in it which the clearshine does not. This makes wiping it off more challenging and I find that I need to buff it more to ensure there is no hazing. The clearshine however is super easy to use and buffs off with ease. However, while the ecosmart takes a little more effort I will say that the wax layer is really an added bonus and helps to keep the car cleaner longer. After a week of commuting with the typical dust near my office and some rain my car is noticeably cleaner with the ecosmart than it is with clearshine.

I'll still continue to use both but once my batch of clearshine is used up i may just stick with the ecosmart which is much cheaper and seems to protect better.

Is your car ceramic coated? Im considering going to a rinseless wash but seems as if it's most effective if your car is already coated.

[Graves]

Originally Posted by gatorfast

I have been using clearshine for a while but a few months back I bought some chemical guys ecosmart to try out. Now that I have used it several times I think I make a fair comparison.

The ecosmart has wax in it which the clearshine does not. This makes wiping it off more challenging and I find that I need to buff it more to ensure there is no hazing. The clearshine however is super easy to use and buffs off with ease. However, while the ecosmart takes a little more effort I will say that the wax layer is really an added bonus and helps to keep the car cleaner longer. After a week of commuting with the typical dust near my office and some rain my car is noticeably cleaner with the ecosmart than it is with clearshine.

I'll still continue to use both but once my batch of clearshine is used up i may just stick with the ecosmart which is much cheaper and seems to protect better.

That's why I started using this. Wipe on, drys clear.

I hear what you're saying though. Clearshine can get expensive. I keep it around more because I might be somewhere in Europe where I don't have access to my other "waterless" wash. So, I keep the bottle full and use it then. I use the Opti-Coat line now.