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      01-19-2020, 07:50 PM   #1
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911 991 vs M4 vs CS63 AMG S

I'm considering buying a used M4 convertible, C63 AMG S, or a 911 991. I am only buying one of these cars with under 30,000 miles and a perfect CARFAX. I want a car that will be a great daily driver I don't need lots of space the 911 has enough space for my needs. I want the car to have great realiablity and I also want the car that will look new and not dated for the longest. I have saved up for a very long time and have all my finances in order to deal with any repairs, but I would like any advice on if one of these cars will have more problems then the others. I am going to be buying one of these cars in the next couple months and I need oppinions from as many forums, friends, and professionals as possible. At the end of the day I am looking for the car that is the most fun with a good mix of not being dated quickly or being unreliable. I will be keeping this car for 5 to 7 years and my max budget is about $65,000 but I would feel better spending around $45,000 to $50,000 which would pretty much leave me with just the M4 as an option. Would the c63 amg s or the 911 991 really be worth the extra cash?

I am leaning towards the M4 the most and would really like to know if there are certain years I should avoid and if the competition package is worth buying. I can get a used 2015 m4 with around 30,000 miles on it from carfax for around $41,000 or a 2018 competition for about $55,000. Is the newer year with a competition package really worth the extra $14,000 or would I be just as happy with a 2015 model? I am coming from a 2007 328i coupe bmw so any of these examples will be a huge improvement. Thank you very much for your guys time I look forward to reading your responces.
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I'm considering buying a used M4 convertible, C63 AMG S, or a 911 991. I am only buying one of these cars with under 30,000 miles and a perfect CARFAX. I want a car that will be a great daily driver I don't need lots of space the 911 has enough space for my needs. I want the car to have great realiablity and I also want the car that will look new and not dated for the longest. I have saved up for a very long time and have all my finances in order to deal with any repairs, but I would like any advice on if one of these cars will have more problems then the others. I am going to be buying one of these cars in the next couple months and I need oppinions from as many forums, friends, and professionals as possible. At the end of the day I am looking for the car that is the most fun with a good mix of not being dated quickly or being unreliable. I will be keeping this car for 5 to 7 years and my max budget is about $65,000 but I would feel better spending around $45,000 to $50,000 which would pretty much leave me with just the M4 as an option. Would the c63 amg s or the 911 991 really be worth the extra cash?

I am leaning towards the M4 the most and would really like to know if there are certain years I should avoid and if the competition package is worth buying. I can get a used 2015 m4 with around 30,000 miles on it from carfax for around $41,000 or a 2018 competition for about $55,000. Is the newer year with a competition package really worth the extra $14,000 or would I be just as happy with a 2015 model? I am coming from a 2007 328i coupe bmw so any of these examples will be a huge improvement. Thank you very much for your guys time I look forward to reading your responces.
All m4's are mechanically the same so go with earlier year

LCI changes very little, tail lights, which you can upgrade for pennies if that's a big deal to you.

One thing about M4 vert, rattles. My friend had his for 3 years and after a year everything inside rattles like it was loose.

Otherwise it's a great all around car.

New M4 is coming in a year or so, so you won't have latest version, BUT in 911 you will be few models behind.
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Are the rattle's in all of the m4 convertables and is it pretty unbearable?
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Are the rattle's in all of the m4 convertables and is it pretty unbearable?
I hear quite a few rattles in mind but wouldnít say itís unbearable. Some days seam worse than others, mostly when itís cold.
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2018 M4 comes w warranty tho...
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I'm considering buying a used M4 convertible, C63 AMG S, or a 911 991. I am only buying one of these cars with under 30,000 miles and a perfect CARFAX. I want a car that will be a great daily driver I don't need lots of space the 911 has enough space for my needs. I want the car to have great realiablity and I also want the car that will look new and not dated for the longest. I have saved up for a very long time and have all my finances in order to deal with any repairs, but I would like any advice on if one of these cars will have more problems then the others. I am going to be buying one of these cars in the next couple months and I need oppinions from as many forums, friends, and professionals as possible. At the end of the day I am looking for the car that is the most fun with a good mix of not being dated quickly or being unreliable. I will be keeping this car for 5 to 7 years and my max budget is about $65,000 but I would feel better spending around $45,000 to $50,000 which would pretty much leave me with just the M4 as an option. Would the c63 amg s or the 911 991 really be worth the extra cash?

I am leaning towards the M4 the most and would really like to know if there are certain years I should avoid and if the competition package is worth buying. I can get a used 2015 m4 with around 30,000 miles on it from carfax for around $41,000 or a 2018 competition for about $55,000. Is the newer year with a competition package really worth the extra $14,000 or would I be just as happy with a 2015 model? I am coming from a 2007 328i coupe bmw so any of these examples will be a huge improvement. Thank you very much for your guys time I look forward to reading your responces.
Each of these cars are fine, reliability-wise, although they're not Toyotas.

The Porsche will be the best (and most fun) as a back-road bandit, while the Mercedes will be the best highway trip car (although it's no slouch in the twisties). The Merc also has that to-die-for exhaust note, right from startup.

The Bimmer is neither fish nor fowl in this context. It's the heaviest car here by a fair margin, and you can both see and hear cowl shake on bumpy roads. Even on smooth twisties, the other two feel much more of a piece to the driver. I am told that rattles are just part of the game, although my personal experience is only one test drive in a new one - which already had a couple of rattles.

On the other hand, it's a convertible, which come Spring and Fall, brings it's own fun.

There are no outright losers here.

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My $0.02, get a stripped down m4 vert or z4 brand new wnd do euro delivery.

My 15 m3 was $66k new including taxes and euro delivery and it was a bucket list experience. Much better IMHO than a used 911 driven solely on USA roads (speaking as a current owner of an old 911 turbo)
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My $0.02, get a stripped down m4 vert or z4 brand new wnd do euro delivery.

My 15 m3 was $66k new including taxes and euro delivery and it was a bucket list experience. Much better IMHO than a used 911 driven solely on USA roads (speaking as a current owner of an old 911 turbo)
Agreed. With a 65K budget it'll be an early model base 991.1 that'll likely require expensive maintenance soon and will have very outdated tech for a daily.
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