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01-14-2020, 07:15 AM | #71 | |
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I recently changed back to stock shocks with MP HAS. The ride is perfect...90% of the time. But the straight line grip sucks again, TC light is flashing non-stop during pulls, and I still need to pucker up over the bigger bumps at high speeds. But this is nothing new, and I knew this going in. But at least my wife will get in the car with me again so we can actually use it as a car. I already have my R8 as a toy, which ironically rides so much better, so MP HAS was still the right choice for me. I'm starting to get the feeling that the reason for all these discrepancies is due to BMW's numerous software revisions. So many different versions out there, and cars won't get updated unless it's warranty related, and that's before you even get into the Comp Pack or CS settings. Way too much variation in software between model years and trims, so EDC suspension reviews are all over the place. Irritates the hell out of me because you genuinely can't make a well-informed decision. |
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So here I am...now considering an F80 ZCP...and THAT is why I'm looking over old suspension threads! My current plan is to get the MP HAS (like the OP eventually did). My hope is that it'll be a sufficient suspension setup for a DD with a few track weekends/year. https://www.dscsport.com/ I guess my take away would be that B16s (in either PSS10 or Damptronic version) aren't necessarily as street-friendly as many ppl claim they are, and this is apparently true across brands per the OP and my experiences. On the other hand, I had PSS10s on my E46 M3 and they were fine on the street so I can't claim they're always too stiff either!
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I can't speak for F80 consensus, but among the E46 and 997 crowd, the B16 is a very-streetable/occasional-track setup. What's weird is that the OP and I had very different experiences in the E46, F80, and 997. My guess is that it ultimately boils down to a personal preference thing as well as the local road conditions. "Too stiff" might mean very different things for someone living in NY (terrible roads) vs FL (super smooth roads).
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Hi Guys,
I took a ride in a friends car today who has this setup and here are my thoughts. BTW he had 19s all around. EDC was ZCP. The kit is awesome, truly impressive for the price point. Car is extremely flat (no body roll), fantastic rebound control. No strange noises, quiet and quality dampening. The reality: this is a stiff ride. nevermind comfort or sport plus, there's not much help there. As a passenger, I really wasnt comfortable. As a driver, that may be a different story (trade comfort for control) It felt like a high end race like coilover system with some minor softness adjustment (2-3 clicks) Its possible that having EDC programmed to CS dampening might solve the stiff ride (lower compression) Night and day compared to stock, I have CS EDC with Swift springs and my car definitely felt sloppy after I drove off - amazing how bad the stock shocks are. I think a good compromise would be to replace the stock shocks with Bilstein B6 damptronic in order to keep stock like spring rates for comfort and have excellent control of the bilsteins. |
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I wish they made the comfort more softer and the sport plus mode stiffer. |
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01-15-2020, 05:57 AM | #79 | |
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Regardless, my car is for sale, so I'm over it. No way in hell someone would have bought my car with B16D on. |
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Hell, if they're actually that hard to get here I might have to try and grab a set from that site. |
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01-15-2020, 10:42 AM | #81 | |
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Bilstein USA still doesn't have the rears available on their website - that's the place to watch. However, yes, IF you can get the set from that vendor, absolutely jump on it - the price is right in the range of what I was expecting to pay when I was looking. Definitely don't want to discourage someone from trying. I'm just over getting my hopes up and then being let down. |
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I ran across a couple, and they were very positive. Only concern was the rear drop is very low, same as V3 if I recall correctly. But, it's considerably more expensive, personally out of my price range. B6D with springs is still the best way to go for a street car if you can get them in my opinion.
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I don't recall seeing them before, but I just checked and they do list a part for both left rear and right rear now. |
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Only one the DSC sport module is not compatible with is the KW DDC. JetBill used the DSC sport module with the M2 and raved about it. Also the other option is Tractive coils that Litchfield and Dinan run on their m4s that all the reviewers have praised in the past. |
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