Ammo frothe hoseless - anyone tried?

[nickw2413]

Has anyone had any experience with this? I dont have the luxury of a drive way to clean my own car so this could be an option, thoughts?

https://www.ammonyc.com/shop/ammo-frothe-hoseless-lift/

[Aaaaaaaaa]

Hmm a soapy rinseless wash. Seems interesting. I do rinseless washes all the time. They're all pretty good it comes down to your technique.

[hlothery]

I have used waterless wash exclusively since I had my Porsche in 2007. Rarely, when really muddy, or after a trip to the beach, I will go to a commercial car wash and use the spray nozzle to knock off the heavy dirt and salt, but then I go right home and use the waterless wash. I use ChemicalGuys Ecosmart RU, and microfiber cloths. Works fantastically, and is actually faster than washing and drying. Started it when we were in severe water restrictions from drought in San Antonio, and love it so much I have never thought of changing back.

[nickw2413]

Larry mentions his new product in the end of his video - I've watched a ton of his videos and he certainly knows his stuff, I'll give it a go and report back.

[GregM4]

I have also used Chemical Guys Ecosmart. Have always found it good for a light clean although when there is heavy dirt I do a normal full wash.

The key here is to take care and use lots of product to lift the dirt and provide lubrication, and also keep and eye on the MF towel. If it is dirty fold it or get a new one as it is possible to drag dirt and induce a light scratch.

[maniz]

Rinseless is the only way I wash and have for over a decade. If the technique, towels, and cleaning product are good, marring isn't an issue except on extremely soft paints, but those get marred no matter what you do anyway.

Thanks for the link; I had no idea a foamy rinseless existed. Larry's stuff is generally quite overpriced compared to the competition IMO, but good to know nonetheless.

[damageprone]

They posted up a video on this yesterday. Looks awesome!

[Aaaaaaaaa]

It'd be interesting to see a comparison between this and just using regular car soap and see if the Frothy leaves less residue after wiping. Also in various weather conditions especially heat and humidity. When doing rinseless and waterless washes the goal is the touch the paint as little as possible so you want a product that can clean residue free in as little wipes as possible. That being said I've tried a lot of them and I really like CarPro Ech2O and Wolfgang Uber Rinseless.

[nickw2413]

I just feel like whatever Larry says is gospel. this video substantiates this right? anyone know of a more legit detailer?

I'm going to give this a go.

[BoxKing]

ONR all the way for a rinseless wash, combined with Hydrosilex as a drying/sealing agent. There is no residue left over with this combo.
I have to give a thumbs up for the AMMO product, definitely something I would add to the arsenal just for shits and giggles.

[KevinM]

Impressive video - he uses the product on cars that I would have considered too dirty for a rinse-less wash. However, it looks like it is always a 2-step process with the Hydrate. Looking forward to some real-world feedback!

[clutchdj]

Thought that read homeless.

[x.shell]

I just ordered the kit. I'll report back after I give it a go.

[KevinM]

Originally Posted by BoxKing

ONR all the way for a rinseless wash, combined with Hydrosilex as a drying/sealing agent. There is no residue left over with this combo.
I have to give a thumbs up for the AMMO product, definitely something I would add to the arsenal just for shits and giggles.

I keep meaning to order Hydrosilex but have not (always take me longer if not on Amazon ). I take it you like it?

[BoxKing]

Originally Posted by KevinM

I keep meaning to order Hydrosilex but have not (always take me longer if not on Amazon ). I take it you like it?

I've found that most of the detailing products I bought over the past year have been significantly cheaper when I buy direct and not through Amazon, but sometimes the convenience to just click away makes it worth the extra buck.

So far I have only used it twice and I do like the results though I feel like it will be even better once I do a full decontamination and add RELOAD- Hydrosilex will become my regular drying agent in between re application of RELOAD which I'll do 2-3 times a year. That might seem like a lot but this is my daily and I life in the northeast so the car takes a beating, that and I drive 20K miles a year.

I'm still trying to debate if I like Hydrosilex over Kenotek...

[gatorfast]

Does hydrosilex really work? I have seen mixed reviews online with some saying it leaves a lot of hard to wipe off streaks.

[BoxKing]

Originally Posted by gatorfast

Does hydrosilex really work? I have seen mixed reviews online with some saying it leaves a lot of hard to wipe off streaks.

I haven't found that to be the case, but remember everyone's application process is different. For starters I use high quality microfiber towels from the rag company: one to apply/dry and the other to polish. I'll use 2-3 sets during this process. Other factors like temperatures, washed in direct sunlight, and the most common error most of us make is over applying any product. A little goes a long way and makes for a more evenly distributed product that minimizes any leftovers that could cause streaking or hazing. I will say Kenotek seemed like an easier spray and wipe product but a lot can be said for Hydrosilex needing a little more elbow grease. The final product felt slippery - Kenotek smells better!

[x.shell]

Got my AMMO Frothe today. I'm gonna give it a try this weekend.

[DocWeatherington]

Originally Posted by exo-shell

Got my AMMO Frothe today. I'm gonna give it a try this weekend.

Keep us updated? Video?

[Aaaaaaaaa]

I just hired a mobile detailer yesterday for a maintenance wash and now I'm hooked and may never wash myself again.

[x.shell]

Originally Posted by DocWeatherington

Keep us updated? Video?

No video. There are plenty on youtube. But here are my thoughts along with some iPhone photos.

I just want to preface that I do not consider myself a detailer nor am I OCD about the cleanliness of my car. I have kids and a large dog that regularly ride in my car. The only detail work that's been done on my car is a ceramic coating a week after I bought the car; that was over 2 years ago. Although I love my car, it's cleanliness is no where near the top of my priorities. So keeping that in mind, here are my thoughts on AMMO Froth-e and AMMO Hydrate.

As you can see from my photos, my car is pretty dirty. This is about 1 1/2 months of no washing with two separate instances of rain.

I did not rinse the car before using the Froth-e; I did it dry.

It was a bit scary going in dry, but Forth-e has great lubrication but stays put on the panel. No new scratch marks appeared after using Froth-e. Awesome!

The spray bottle works great but you have to constantly pump it up to keep the spray wide. It starts to spray a beam as the air pressure drops.

You can only go panel by panel or section by section because Froth-e dries up pretty quickly.

There is a lot of overspray when moving from panel to panel so you are double cleaning a lot. I'm sure I'll get better at it as I do it more often.

I used about 5 micro fiber towels for the body. 1 for the wheels. And 1 for Ammo Hydrate.

It's pretty easy to "wash" a car with Froth-e, but it's not as fast as I thought it was going to be. It takes maybe half the time of a traditional rinse-soap-rinse-dry wash.

It took about 20 oz of water + 2 oz of Froth-e to do the whole car. But you should put about 10 extra ounces because it starts sputtering when you tilt the bottle as it lower and lower. Some one should make a dry sump version of this spray bottle.

I think it's good enough for me to do this type of wash most of the time. However, I would probably prefer to do a quick water rinse first to get off all the loose dirt and dust.

Ammo Froth-e smells like shaving cream. Given that it uses the some of the same ingredients, that's not a surprise. Ammo Hydrate smells incredible!

Hydrate is a great sealant after the wash (or even when drying the car after a traditional wash). Hydrate is a fantastic product that really brings out the shine.

I would recommend Ammo Froth-e and Hydrate for sure.

Here are some photos.


BEFORE






AFTER AMMO FROTH-E

[damageprone]

Originally Posted by exo-shell

I just want to preface that I do not consider myself a detailer nor am I OCD about the cleanliness of my car.

Nice photos! Definitely would be great for washing during the summer heat in Vegas.

PS you might want to censor that microfiber cloth reflection on the floor. I don't think the OCD guys can take it .