Differences between 2015 and 2018 M4

Ronin76 · 03-13-2021, 04:59 PM

Hi Everyone,

Was hoping someone could tell me what the main differences are between the 2015 and 2018 M4 and if those differences are worth getting the 2018. I have notice some 2018s are going for around $50k and the 2015 model years in the low $40s.

Thanks!

Humdizzle · 03-13-2021, 05:04 PM

headlights. some changes to the infotainment as well.

deeldoo · 03-13-2021, 05:15 PM

2015 will try to kill you.

2018 is more subtle.

Ronin76 · 03-13-2021, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

headlights. some changes to the infotainment as well.

Thanks for the response. Does not seem the $7k premium is worth it but the lights are nice. Not sure they are $7k nice though.

Humdizzle · 03-13-2021, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pkalhan

Thanks for the response. Does not seem the $7k premium is worth it but the lights are nice. Not sure they are $7k nice though.

i think its life 3-4k to upgrade to them if you have a 2015. then its about 1000 for the lci tail lights.

Suds · 03-13-2021, 05:43 PM

16’ was first year for competition package.

maddmatth · 03-13-2021, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deeldoo

2015 will try to kill you.

2018 is more subtle.

You can get the software updated on the 2015 and it'll then be the same.

Ronin76 · 03-13-2021, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deeldoo

2015 will try to kill you.

2018 is more subtle.

This is an interesting post...I have not driven either one. Could you elaborate a little more?

deeldoo · 03-13-2021, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pkalhan

Quote:

Originally Posted by deeldoo

2015 will try to kill you.

2018 is more subtle.

This is an interesting post...I have not driven either one. Could you elaborate a little more?

2015 was pre bmw fixing the power delivery.

Early 2015 and 2016 models are extremely peaky and spiky, lack of traction + torque tidal wave makes them a real handful.

After 2017 they reprogrammed the software to be a lot more linear and easier to manage throttle.

ZoomZoomZEmmy · 03-13-2021, 05:58 PM

In 2015 it would have cost you 233 Bitcoins to buy a new 2015 $70k M4.
Today a Used 2018 $50k M4 would cost you just .9 Bitcoin.
Go with the Used 2018 for .9 btc. Its the better car and will cost you less.
cheers mate.

No.401_Speed · 03-13-2021, 06:17 PM

I'd consider mileage before model year when factoring costs. A low mileage 15 for a reasonable price would be a better buy than a higher mileage 18. Personally the LCI is not a factor. And, while I've never driven a 2018 F82, I do like the power delivery of the 2015. That's why I bought it.

N1rve · 03-13-2021, 06:18 PM

The main differences I think are

1) Idrive 6 vs Idrive 4
2) CarPlay Available in 2018 as subscription (however subscription is gone and is free now)
3) Optional ICON headlights with executive package
4) Backup Camera is standard
5) LCI Tail Lights/Headlights
6) Anti-Dazzle no longer codable with the LCI hardware
7) Stitching on Dash for a “more luxury feel”.
8) Updated Black Seat Emblems to prevent cracking
9) No more CF drive shaft
10) Passenger Mirror no longer dimming
11) Bedplate and Friction Disk Update for crankhub “issue” in the S55 engine.
12) As people stated, tuning is different from 2015 to 2018.
13) Text messages no longer readable in ID6 because of apple carplay.
14) Turn signal no longer codable to 5 blinks, max is 3 on 2018.
15) Top down view is available in reverse if That was the last setting used. 2018 defaults to backup camera.
16) I think the touchscreen came back in 2018.

If I were you, just get a 2015 with everything option ticked in a 6MT (if possible).

bsmf8x · 03-13-2021, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N1rve

The main differences I think are

1) Idrive 6 vs Idrive 4
2) CarPlay Available in 2018 as subscription (however subscription is gone and is free now)
3) Optional ICON headlights with executive package
4) Backup Camera is standard
5) LCI Tail Lights/Headlights
6) Anti-Dazzle no longer codable with the LCI hardware
7) Stitching on Dash for a "more luxury feel".
8) Updated Black Seat Emblems to prevent cracking
9) No more CF drive shaft
10) Passenger Mirror no longer dimming
11) Bedplate and Friction Disk Update for crankhub "issue" in the S55 engine.
12) As people stated, tuning is different from 2015 to 2018.
13) Text messages no longer readable in ID6 because of apple carplay.
14) Turn signal no longer codable to 5 blinks, max is 3 on 2018.
15) Top down view is available in reverse if That was the last setting used. 2018 defaults to backup camera.
16) I think the touchscreen came back in 2018.

If I were you, just get a 2015 with everything option ticked in a 6MT (if possible).

The bed plate update did literally nothing to help the crankhub issue btw OP.

If anything people speculate that the 2018's have it even worse, but statistically it looks like 2015-2020 are pretty identical in terms of chances of spun crankhub

I got a 2016 instead of a 2018 and I'm satisfied, just wish I had the nicer lights + carplay. Can all be done aftermarket though.

As for point 18, touchscreen is only available in m4 not m3 for 2018+ cars. No idea why

NickyC · 03-13-2021, 07:23 PM

I made the switch back in November after seeing the G82 disaster which I'd been saving up for. My thoughts in the thread below:

I've since changed to full KW V3s, got rid of the HAS kit almost immediately lol.

https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1779443

Wait, did the 18s *really* lose the CF driveshaft?!? I didn't know that, thought that didn't happen until 19. Holy crap what a bummer if so.

N1rve · 03-13-2021, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsmf8x

The bed plate update did literally nothing to help the crankhub issue btw OP.

If anything people speculate that the 2018's have it even worse, but statistically it looks like 2015-2020 are pretty identical in terms of chances of spun crankhub

I got a 2016 instead of a 2018 and I'm satisfied, just wish I had the nicer lights + carplay. Can all be done aftermarket though.

As for point 18, touchscreen is only available in m4 not m3 for 2018+ cars. No idea why

You’re not missing much without Apple CarPlay. I think BMW Idrive is better and also having your Navi showing up in the HUD is a nice touch.

Ronin76 · 03-13-2021, 07:29 PM

Thanks everyone for your comments, i appreciate it. Below are the specs of the two cars I am considering....

2015 - Austin Yellow (black interior), 28,843 miles for $42,350, dual clutch, independent dealership (3 owners....next owner will be the 4th)

2018 - Yas Marina Blue (Sandstone interior), 34,500 miles for $49,900, dual clutch (private sale with CPO warranty...2 owners...next owner will be the 3rd)

I know both colors are a little unique, but I am have had a silver car, a grey car, and currently a black car. Wanted something different and these two are my two favorites for the M4.

Ronin76 · 03-13-2021, 07:42 PM

Also, what is the "crank hub" issue. Sorry if this is a well known item that I am not aware of. I guess asking forum members these questions is a good way to learn about any issues these cars have. I heard that these engines are pretty solid, is that not the case?

bsmf8x · 03-13-2021, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N1rve

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsmf8x

The bed plate update did literally nothing to help the crankhub issue btw OP.

If anything people speculate that the 2018's have it even worse, but statistically it looks like 2015-2020 are pretty identical in terms of chances of spun crankhub

I got a 2016 instead of a 2018 and I'm satisfied, just wish I had the nicer lights + carplay. Can all be done aftermarket though.

As for point 18, touchscreen is only available in m4 not m3 for 2018+ cars. No idea why

You’re not missing much without Apple CarPlay. I think BMW Idrive is better and also having your Navi showing up in the HUD is a nice touch.

Hate typing in addresses manually into the iDrive, so time consuming.

dmk08 · 03-13-2021, 09:05 PM

2015 has better headlights and is more hooligan.

RickFLM4 · 03-13-2021, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsmf8x

Hate typing in addresses manually into the iDrive, so time consuming.

Easier to use the app and send it to the car. Also think you can use voice with iDrive but don’t think I’ve tried it as I usually use the app when I need nav directions.

Also for good post earlier above with the detailed differences, messages are still visible in iDrive if you don’t use CarPlay.

sna66 · 03-13-2021, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsmf8x

Quote:

Originally Posted by N1rve

The main differences I think are

1) Idrive 6 vs Idrive 4
2) CarPlay Available in 2018 as subscription (however subscription is gone and is free now)
3) Optional ICON headlights with executive package
4) Backup Camera is standard
5) LCI Tail Lights/Headlights
6) Anti-Dazzle no longer codable with the LCI hardware
7) Stitching on Dash for a "more luxury feel".
8) Updated Black Seat Emblems to prevent cracking
9) No more CF drive shaft
10) Passenger Mirror no longer dimming
11) Bedplate and Friction Disk Update for crankhub "issue" in the S55 engine.
12) As people stated, tuning is different from 2015 to 2018.
13) Text messages no longer readable in ID6 because of apple carplay.
14) Turn signal no longer codable to 5 blinks, max is 3 on 2018.
15) Top down view is available in reverse if That was the last setting used. 2018 defaults to backup camera.
16) I think the touchscreen came back in 2018.

If I were you, just get a 2015 with everything option ticked in a 6MT (if possible).

The bed plate update did literally nothing to help the crankhub issue btw OP.

If anything people speculate that the 2018's have it even worse, but statistically it looks like 2015-2020 are pretty identical in terms of chances of spun crankhub

I got a 2016 instead of a 2018 and I'm satisfied, just wish I had the nicer lights + carplay. Can all be done aftermarket though.

As for point 18, touchscreen is only available in m4 not m3 for 2018+ cars. No idea why

There is a CarPlay mmi box on aliexpress for 200 and some change that will give your 2015 the same CarPlay

sna66 · 03-13-2021, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmk08

2015 has better headlights and is more hooligan.

Thought I was the only one that prefers the signature angle eyes

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No.401_Speed Army Veteran 138 Rep 150 Posts Drives: 2015 M4 BSM & 2009 E-92 BSM Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Kingston Ontario Canada iTrader: (0)	2015 versus 2018 M4 I'd consider mileage before model year when factoring costs. A low mileage 15 for a reasonable price would be a better buy than a higher mileage 18. Personally the LCI is not a factor. And, while I've never driven a 2018 F82, I do like the power delivery of the 2015. That's why I bought it.
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N1rve Racecar Driver 1289 Rep 1,955 Posts Drives: BMW M4 Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Beverly Hills, California iTrader: (2) Garage List 2019 BMW M4 [9.63]	The main differences I think are 1) Idrive 6 vs Idrive 4 2) CarPlay Available in 2018 as subscription (however subscription is gone and is free now) 3) Optional ICON headlights with executive package 4) Backup Camera is standard 5) LCI Tail Lights/Headlights 6) Anti-Dazzle no longer codable with the LCI hardware 7) Stitching on Dash for a “more luxury feel”. 8) Updated Black Seat Emblems to prevent cracking 9) No more CF drive shaft 10) Passenger Mirror no longer dimming 11) Bedplate and Friction Disk Update for crankhub “issue” in the S55 engine. 12) As people stated, tuning is different from 2015 to 2018. 13) Text messages no longer readable in ID6 because of apple carplay. 14) Turn signal no longer codable to 5 blinks, max is 3 on 2018. 15) Top down view is available in reverse if That was the last setting used. 2018 defaults to backup camera. 16) I think the touchscreen came back in 2018. If I were you, just get a 2015 with everything option ticked in a 6MT (if possible).
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Ronin76 Captain 740 Rep 773 Posts Drives: 2018 Tesla Model 3 Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: PA iTrader: (0)	Thanks everyone for your comments, i appreciate it. Below are the specs of the two cars I am considering.... 2015 - Austin Yellow (black interior), 28,843 miles for $42,350, dual clutch, independent dealership (3 owners....next owner will be the 4th) 2018 - Yas Marina Blue (Sandstone interior), 34,500 miles for $49,900, dual clutch (private sale with CPO warranty...2 owners...next owner will be the 3rd) I know both colors are a little unique, but I am have had a silver car, a grey car, and currently a black car. Wanted something different and these two are my two favorites for the M4.
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Ronin76 Captain 740 Rep 773 Posts Drives: 2018 Tesla Model 3 Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: PA iTrader: (0)	Also, what is the "crank hub" issue. Sorry if this is a well known item that I am not aware of. I guess asking forum members these questions is a good way to learn about any issues these cars have. I heard that these engines are pretty solid, is that not the case?
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dmk08 Gone Fishin’ 7318 Rep 12,125 Posts Drives: Walks Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Atlanta iTrader: (19)	2015 has better headlights and is more hooligan.
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