Differences between 2015 and 2018 M4

[NickyC]

Originally Posted by sna66

Thought I was the only one that prefers the signature angle eyes

Nope, even with the ICONs on my 2018 I prefer the good old xenons honestly from the 15 hah.

[zamboni]

Originally Posted by bsmf8x

The bed plate update did literally nothing to help the crankhub issue btw OP.

If anything people speculate that the 2018's have it even worse, but statistically it looks like 2015-2020 are pretty identical in terms of chances of spun crankhub

I got a 2016 instead of a 2018 and I'm satisfied, just wish I had the nicer lights + carplay. Can all be done aftermarket though.

As for point 18, touchscreen is only available in m4 not m3 for 2018+ cars. No idea why

My 18 idrive6 had touch screen and you can read messages. I would go with 18 version BMW finally fine tune the suspension on ZSP package.

[Poiseuille]

Originally Posted by pkalhan

Thanks everyone for your comments, i appreciate it. Below are the specs of the two cars I am considering....

2015 - Austin Yellow (black interior), 28,843 miles for $42,350, dual clutch, independent dealership (3 owners....next owner will be the 4th)

2018 - Yas Marina Blue (Sandstone interior), 34,500 miles for $49,900, dual clutch (private sale with CPO warranty...2 owners...next owner will be the 3rd)

I know both colors are a little unique, but I am have had a silver car, a grey car, and currently a black car. Wanted something different and these two are my two favorites for the M4.

just my humble opinion but it's a private seller for me, one i can talk to, who has a stack of service records as thick as my wrist, who bought it new not expecting to sell it.
i know that CPO sounds like a great idea, and if you only plan to keep the car for two years it is.
bear in mind though that most, if not all CPOs are former leases that received (if they were lucky) three years of free BMW-no-maintenance.
certainly more time consuming, even aggravating to shop private and you have to be willing to travel and patience is required. however, you'll discover better cars at the same prices and often lower than at BMW dealers. under no circumstance would i buy from an off-brand or used dealer for cars this new. E46, different story because those are hard to find. F8X not hard to find.
the very good news is that when these cars are properly taken car of and not aggressively modified they are very robust.
Good Luck!

[MDOC]

There's a very noticeable torque difference between my 2015 M4 and later ZCP models. I know it's supposed to just be at lower RPMs (around 1850) but my butt dyno says it continues all the way through the power band. That's one reason I'm keeping my '15 vs. buying a later model comp. IMHO the few upgraded changes don't make up for the feeling of raw power on early models.

[mord4]

Mine MY18 does not have touchscreen unit, was it a executive package only deal?

[zamboni]

My production built was June 18 and I bought the car in December 18.

[N1rve]

Originally Posted by pkalhan

Also, what is the "crank hub" issue. Sorry if this is a well known item that I am not aware of. I guess asking forum members these questions is a good way to learn about any issues these cars have. I heard that these engines are pretty solid, is that not the case?

Basically there is like a slight chance your crank hub will slip, timing will go out, and valves and pistons will touch and engine will go kaboom. S55 is an interference engine. Only a slight chance on stock. Higher chance if tuned.

Originally Posted by bsmf8x

Hate typing in addresses manually into the iDrive, so time consuming.

I usually just use BMW Connected and send the address there. I agree, typing is a PITA.

[gerri]

much more bmw style with angel eys and eyebrow the 2015 compared to the two half hexagons that look like other brands.

[horsepower_and_hounds]

Not sure the '18 is worth 7k over the '15 when it comes to selling but that depends on the buyer.

My opinion....I have a '15 again:

Cars are very close to the same.

I personally prefer the original tail lights

I had the LCI headlights on my M2 and I can go either way with them

Just get the $100 coding package for all the hidden features and the GTS trans tune...that takes a lot of the jerkiness out and the delayed reverse

Most tune the car..... I personally did BM3 and the M4 GTS tune. Smoothes the throttle response out and adds a little bump in power then your pretty much the same

Touch screen i-drive.... they can keep that shit. My screen was always a mess on the M2 and it also makes it hard to see in the sun

I would weigh variables, the cheaper cost, color, mileage, condition, specs, service record, mods, etc and make the decision

There has been no real mechanical differences over the years car for car. it is mainly small electrical items

Personally if all was equal I would probably pay the extra 7k and get the newer one and keep it. The '15 is a work horse but it is 3 yrs older. I personally bought another '15 last year but I was looking for low mileage and a cheap cash price

[Willbw02]

Originally Posted by pkalhan

Thanks everyone for your comments, i appreciate it. Below are the specs of the two cars I am considering....

2015 - Austin Yellow (black interior), 28,843 miles for $42,350, dual clutch, independent dealership (3 owners....next owner will be the 4th)

2018 - Yas Marina Blue (Sandstone interior), 34,500 miles for $49,900, dual clutch (private sale with CPO warranty...2 owners...next owner will be the 3rd)

I know both colors are a little unique, but I am have had a silver car, a grey car, and currently a black car. Wanted something different and these two are my two favorites for the M4.

YMB 2018. Should hold its value better.

[m4h2o]

Originally Posted by deeldoo

2015 was pre bmw fixing the power delivery.

Early 2015 and 2016 models are extremely peaky and spiky, lack of traction + torque tidal wave makes them a real handful.

After 2017 they reprogrammed the software to be a lot more linear and easier to manage throttle.

Would the gts transmission flash fid this?

[RoundelM3]

Originally Posted by bsmf8x

Hate typing in addresses manually into the iDrive, so time consuming.

You mean your iDrive voice recognition isn't working? I never type-in addresses in my 2015 F80.

[forgemarco]

Originally Posted by m4h2o

Would the gts transmission flash fid this?

The GTS flash on the transmission and diff makes the car a lot better to drive 👍🏻

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by deeldoo

2015 will try to kill you.

2018 is more subtle.

Originally Posted by deeldoo

2015 was pre bmw fixing the power delivery.

Early 2015 and 2016 models are extremely peaky and spiky, lack of traction + torque tidal wave makes them a real handful.

After 2017 they reprogrammed the software to be a lot more linear and easier to manage throttle.

It's funny I've been reading such comments abundantly recently. But it is total

I've tracked my 2015 M4 for over 4 years and well over 100 track days and it never bit me on track. I daily drive it through all 4-seasons and even in winter, never did it exhibit bad behaviour. Quite the contrary actually, I found it was a real pussycat to handle, but you do need to know what you are doing. It simply not just a mash and go type of car, you need to drive it. The chassis was super nimble and responsive with tons of torque available on demand. And this is what made it such a pleasant machine to drive.

[Poiseuille]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

It's funny I've been reading such comments abundantly recently. But it is total

I've tracked my 2015 M4 for over 4 years and well over 100 track days and it never bit me on track. I daily drive it through all 4-seasons and even in winter, never did it exhibit bad behaviour. Quite the contrary actually, I found it was a real pussy to handle, but you do need to know what you are doing. It simply not just a mash and go type of car, you need to drive it. The chassis was super nimble and responsive with tons of torque available on demand. And this is what made it such a pleasant machine to drive.

^^^this, exactly

[deeldoo]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

It's funny I've been reading such comments abundantly recently. But it is total

I've tracked my 2015 M4 for over 4 years and well over 100 track days and it never bit me on track. I daily drive it through all 4-seasons and even in winter, never did it exhibit bad behaviour. Quite the contrary actually, I found it was a real pussycat to handle, but you do need to know what you are doing. It simply not just a mash and go type of car, you need to drive it. The chassis was super nimble and responsive with tons of torque available on demand. And this is what made it such a pleasant machine to drive.

I agree, but not everyone who buys the car can drive the car.

You have to admit, for someone who isn't tracking cars, or doing performance schools they have a much higher chance of wrecking the older models vs newer.

I never had an issue but i also know how to modulate the throttle but many people have heavier feet

[Karlooch]

Originally Posted by MDOC

There's a very noticeable torque difference between my 2015 M4 and later ZCP models. I know it's supposed to just be at lower RPMs (around 1850) but my butt dyno says it continues all the way through the power band. That's one reason I'm keeping my '15 vs. buying a later model comp. IMHO the few upgraded changes don't make up for the feeling of raw power on early models.

I just bought a 2016, does this apply to that year as well? Are you refraining from updating the software because of this also?

[Poiseuille]

Originally Posted by Karlooch

I just bought a 2016, does this apply to that year as well? Are you refraining from updating the software because of this also?

i have a non-comp 16, production date 11/15, and the torque curve is the same as my brother's 15.

[Shikari]

Originally Posted by deeldoo

2015 was pre bmw fixing the power delivery.

Early 2015 and 2016 models are extremely peaky and spiky, lack of traction + torque tidal wave makes them a real handful.

After 2017 they reprogrammed the software to be a lot more linear and easier to manage throttle.

I can second the i had both 2015 and 2018 man the 2015 you can not drive in sport plus at low speeds

[GarlicBread]

They really get rid of passenger mirror dimming in the 2018? Why the heck would they do that?

[deeldoo]

Originally Posted by Shikari

I can second the i had both 2015 and 2018 man the 2015 you can not drive in sport plus at low speeds

Ya i don't think it changed over until 2016.

At low speeds, you are either bucking, and if you put it through you are lighting up both tires.

It's actually a huge pain in the ass, i rarely ever floor my car below 2nd gear at 4k rpm.

I am running pretty much R comps now with the RE71R and only recently started experiencing a good hookup at low speeds.

With stock conti's or pss's i was kicking the rear end out going in a straight line doing 80kph. Disaster waiting to happen.

[Eurosonly]

Ive owned both backwards actually. 2018 then a 2015. Id go for a low mileage 2015 and save the money for mods repairs etc. The headlight/tails arent that big of a deal to be honest the 2015 m4s look very very modern still. the 2015 also will provide you with a super fun learning curve due to its software/power delivery. not much really breaks on these cars In stock form so the warranty is honestly not even that helpful(in my experience). Also the 2015s had a insane warranty that lasted many miles and even covered items like brake pads so this likely means that the 15 was treated a bit nicer! can't go wrong with most f8x m3/m4 tho. drive safe

-euros