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      04-24-2021, 02:40 PM   #23
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I've never considered one car to be a stepping stone to "move up" to another car. I've owned a lot of cars, and I like to experience different cars that peak my interest.

That being said, you could consider my F80 M3 to have been a serious downgrade from my previous car which was a 2017 NSX. I wanted a fun, four door car and I always wanted an M3. Plus being able to get on with three pedals was the sealed the deal.
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Moving on to an ordered M5 comp scheduled to arrive at port on 5/7. No way I could stomach new M3/4 with that snout regardless of the performance.

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      04-24-2021, 05:53 PM   #25
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M8, 992, or M5 if more doors are needed
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      04-24-2021, 06:10 PM   #26
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I have been in a SS but not a Camaro, but I'm sure it's not much different. American Cars have come a long way but it's still not as good as German engineering! The handling and feel I find is much more refined in the F82 that I own. My E46 M3 had even better handling and feel but it's not in the same class due to the lack of stock power. I really want to love American muscle but it just doesn't feel right after you have been driving BMWs most of your life. Maybe it's just me!
You’re right, it’s not as good, it’s better. The SS 1LE/GT350/ZL1s etc are better suspension and chassis wise.
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      04-24-2021, 06:26 PM   #27
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M8, 992, or M5 if more doors are needed
M5 and M8 are not really an "upgrade" as much as a change, you're trading away sportyness for luxury.

Yes they're f**king fast. But there's a lot less 'feel' and they're not as agile.

Amazing cars nonetheless. Just, IMO, not for the same kind of person as the M3/4
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      04-24-2021, 07:16 PM   #28
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Well, im looking for Giulia Quadrifoglio, GT4 or 911 991
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      04-24-2021, 09:59 PM   #29
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GT3/GT3RS.
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      04-24-2021, 10:21 PM   #30
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      04-24-2021, 10:42 PM   #31
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Look into the c8 corvette if you don't wanna drop a lot of $$$

C8 is the best bang for buck performance car out there in my opinion
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      04-25-2021, 12:21 AM   #32
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C8 is not my favorite design wise. I really like the C7 Z06 front end along with that bulky ass.
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      04-25-2021, 10:18 AM   #33
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I would say GT3RS or GT4 but the price is quite ridiculous
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      04-25-2021, 12:21 PM   #34
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I would say GT3RS or GT4 but the price is quite ridiculous
GT4 price is not bad at all at around $125-130k for decent spec.
Especially compared to GT3 prices or even a regular new 911 S.

Unlike BMW M cars, Porsche does a great job controlling/limiting 911 production which keeps these cars very desirable even once they are used.

So yes there is higher price for entry, but realistically you will not lose more than 20-30% in depreciation on regular 911 and for GT3s you will almost not lose anything at all.

The used 991.2 GT3s are going for msrp or over and they have around 10k miles on them.
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I have been in a SS but not a Camaro, but I'm sure it's not much different. American Cars have come a long way but it's still not as good as German engineering! The handling and feel I find is much more refined in the F82 that I own. My E46 M3 had even better handling and feel but it's not in the same class due to the lack of stock power. I really want to love American muscle but it just doesn't feel right after you have been driving BMWs most of your life. Maybe it's just me!
Sounds like you'd love a W204 C63 then
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      04-25-2021, 03:34 PM   #36
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E92 M3. I need back seats and it's a hell of a lot more engaging than my F80 ZCP was.
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      04-25-2021, 04:11 PM   #37
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Need to have a manual. So maybe a Cayman? Or a V8 AM Vantage? Both slower overall but not slugs either. And the AM is gorgeous styling.
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I would say GT3RS or GT4 but the price is quite ridiculous
RMN is correct.

As Porsche has mentioned, their average for MSRP on cars are around 25k or so for options.

The new 992 GT3 will be close to 190k for most option wise. Compared to the 718 GT4/Spyder, you are looking at about 125k give or take for a well optioned car. Both are NA Flat Six engines but the 718 are smaller, mid engine and personally the best looking car in the world at the moment.

I'm dumb though as mine is a "bit" over that price point but I'm not really planning on getting rid of my car either so I didn't mind.

Now the soon to be GT4 RS price, rumored about 130k base MSRP is a bit harder to swallow personally. At that point with options you are at the heels of the GT3 MSRP, not to mention adding in ADM.
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