Help me learn how to accelerate hard with the dct

[McIntoshMotorSports]

Originally Posted by MisterF80M3

Bone stock F80 running 11s. Doesn't seem like there is any traction issue here either. Might need a driver mod

Prepped track is much easier to get proper traction than the street

[Kilabyte]

Originally Posted by Tecnniqe

9.6

MPSS are good tires, the 4s are better

A lot better.

[GP0256]

Originally Posted by MisterF80M3

Bone stock F80 running 11s. Doesn't seem like there is any traction issue here either. Might need a driver mod

I said outta the hole, let's talk 60 -100 feet. I'll meet up with you with my JB4 F30 335 x drive any day (77 k miles so it's not fresh) and take you 60-100' all day.

[Silverlining_m2]

Originally Posted by GP0256

I said outta the hole, let's talk 60 -100 feet. I'll meet up with you with my JB4 F30 335 x drive any day (77 k miles so it's not fresh) and take you 60-100' all day.

Xdrives and rwd's shouldn't even race each other. Thats comparing apples and oranges. Both sweet fruit but not the same, aside from falling under the same food category.

[Silverlining_m2]

Originally Posted by Kilabyte

A lot better.

Noted

[MisterF80M3]

Originally Posted by GP0256

I said outta the hole, let's talk 60 -100 feet. I'll meet up with you with my JB4 F30 335 x drive any day (77 k miles so it's not fresh) and take you 60-100' all day.

335xi with JB4, BMS BEF, TCU flash, IC, and BMW performance exhaust

60 Foot: 1.793
1/8 Mile: 8.196 @ 84.87 MPH
1/4 Mile: 12.801 @ 107.31 MPH

Stock F80 M3

60 Foot: 1.75
1/8 Mile: 7.521 @ 96.82 MPH
1/4 Mile: 11.66 @ 119.22 MPH

[GP0256]

Originally Posted by MisterF80M3

335xi with JB4, BMS BEF, TCU flash, IC, and BMW performance exhaust

60 Foot: 1.793
1/8 Mile: 8.196 @ 84.87 MPH
1/4 Mile: 12.801 @ 107.31 MPH

Stock F80 M3

60 Foot: 1.75
1/8 Mile: 7.521 @ 96.82 MPH
1/4 Mile: 11.66 @ 119.22 MPH

Bring your M to KY and I'll take you in 60' all day. Why are you posting drag strip videos. That's not real world. When I'm done taking you at 60' in the 335 we can take the M's to the track of your choice and I'll smoke you there too. Drag racing a German car is not an indication of their performance prowess. Last time I checked the Nurburgring doesn't test drag race times because they are irrelevant.

Go ahead and post another drag video at a track with track prepped surface and cars. OK bro

[MisterF80M3]

Originally Posted by GP0256

Bring your M to KY and I'll take you in 60' all day. Why are you posting drag strip videos. That's not real world. When I'm done taking you at 60' in the 335 we can take the M's to the track of your choice and I'll smoke you there too. Drag racing a German car is not an indication of their performance prowess. Last time I checked the Nurburgring doesn't test drag race times because they are irrelevant.

Go ahead and post another drag video at a track with track prepped surface and cars. OK bro

Sounds like you are running out of excuses. I wasn't the one that said that "My 335ix will crush an M3 out of the hole." And now you are backtracking and saying German car isn't made for drag racing?

How are you going to measure 60' on a street race, genius? Both videos I posted of the 335ix and M3 are on a drag strip with prepped surfaces. How is that an unfair comparison?

[jd__m4]

Originally Posted by GP0256

Bring your M to KY and I'll take you in 60' all day. Why are you posting drag strip videos. That's not real world. When I'm done taking you at 60' in the 335 we can take the M's to the track of your choice and I'll smoke you there too. Drag racing a German car is not an indication of their performance prowess. Last time I checked the Nurburgring doesn't test drag race times because they are irrelevant.

Go ahead and post another drag video at a track with track prepped surface and cars. OK bro

[McIntoshMotorSports]

Originally Posted by MisterF80M3

Sounds like you are running out of excuses. I wasn't the one that said that "My 335ix will crush an M3 out of the hole." And now you are backtracking and saying German car isn't made for drag racing?

How are you going to measure 60' on a street race, genius? Both videos I posted of the 335ix and M3 are on a drag strip with prepped surfaces. How is that an unfair comparison?

Cool little device called Dragy can do just that; test 60', 1/8 mile, 1/4 mile, 1/2 etc all using precise GPS. Of course there are variables such as the type of tarmac you are on but it's a way more accurate representation of "street" racing times compared to a fully prepped track.

[MisterF80M3]

Originally Posted by McIntoshMotorSports

Cool little device called Dragy can do just that; test 60', 1/8 mile, 1/4 mile, 1/2 etc all using precise GPS. Of course there are variables such as the type of tarmac you are on but it's a way more accurate representation of "street" racing times compared to a fully prepped track.

2 vehicles running Draggy for a street race.

Might as well bring it to the drag strip if you want to prove track times. What is wrong with racing on a drag strip?

[McIntoshMotorSports]

Originally Posted by MisterF80M3

2 vehicles running Draggy for a street race.

Might as well bring it to the drag strip if you want to prove track times. What is wrong with racing on a drag strip?

Oh sorry didn't see you meant car vs car just a measurement of street performance; misread. But yeah that's something people do. I'm not against the drag strip but it's just not the best way to gauge of "street" performance. Properly heated stocked tires will hook out of a dig on a prepped track but we all know how much different it is on the street; maybe it's where I live where every highway and road is a different type of tarmac haha

[Kilabyte]

Originally Posted by MisterF80M3

2 vehicles running Draggy for a street race.

Might as well bring it to the drag strip if you want to prove track times. What is wrong with racing on a drag strip?

Pretty sure these guys are talking real life day to day performance on the street, that in awd world is not much of a difference until you reach a certain power level, but with the f8x while it might be ok with slicks on a prepped track it still sucks launching on pavement, I mean the latest Carwow vid showing the fugly replacement vs the M4 and an awd 440 shows it best Light to light you're not catching it, I'm even worse off with the 3 pedals

[Tecnniqe]

Originally Posted by Kilabyte

Pretty sure these guys are talking real life day to day performance on the street, that in awd world is not much of a difference until you reach a certain power level, but with the f8x while it might be ok with slicks on a prepped track it still sucks launching on pavement, I mean the latest Carwow vid showing the fugly replacement vs the M4 and an awd 440 shows it best Light to light you're not catching it, I'm even worse off with the 3 pedals

Once you reach third gear it's over

[rmanm4]

AWD is great off the line, but you have a lot of loss in AWD config. The ability to turn it off in the new AWD G8X will be fun. If you can take it off after launch or if it's automatic with launch control, where it launches you in AWD and then full power to rear with minimal loss....then....only then....will the AWD version be king! BMW may have something up it's sleeve???!!!??

[quikM2]

real world scenario specifically with amateur driver the car is really frustrating to 'launch' as OP asked. The tires are rarely warm enough from stop start traffic and they are rarely new. More impactful is the life saving yet extremely intrusive dsc that cuts power and bogs and comes on hard. Plus with dct once the break is engaged for a second after a full stop it turns off throttle so you have to tap the throttle to get it back then off and then back on feathered to try and feel out your roll and manage what MDM will give you. If from a stop you just push the pedal down it will bog 100% as it reengages. Lastly and almost just as important usually the pavement sucks. Its uneven or cracked or heaved which even minor deviations will dick with your dsc and traction of two wheels.

Short Answer - 440hp rwd cars are hard to drive.

[NSX2M4]

I find that I can usually get better launches in sport and drive logic 2 setting VS sport plus and D3 while in MDM mode. Honestly, the car seems to drive a whole lot better in sport to me.
No scientific data to back this up though.

[Silverlining_m2]

Originally Posted by quikM2

real world scenario specifically with amateur driver the car is really frustrating to 'launch' as OP asked. The tires are rarely warm enough from stop start traffic and they are rarely new. More impactful is the life saving yet extremely intrusive dsc that cuts power and bogs and comes on hard. Plus with dct once the break is engaged for a second after a full stop it turns off throttle so you have to tap the throttle to get it back then off and then back on feathered to try and feel out your roll and manage what MDM will give you. If from a stop you just push the pedal down it will bog 100% as it reengages. Lastly and almost just as important usually the pavement sucks. Its uneven or cracked or heaved which even minor deviations will dick with your dsc and traction of two wheels.

Short Answer - 440hp rwd cars are hard to drive.

Originally Posted by quikM2

real world scenario specifically with amateur driver the car is really frustrating to 'launch' as OP asked. The tires are rarely warm enough from stop start traffic and they are rarely new. More impactful is the life saving yet extremely intrusive dsc that cuts power and bogs and comes on hard. Plus with dct once the break is engaged for a second after a full stop it turns off throttle so you have to tap the throttle to get it back then off and then back on feathered to try and feel out your roll and manage what MDM will give you. If from a stop you just push the pedal down it will bog 100% as it reengages. Lastly and almost just as important usually the pavement sucks. Its uneven or cracked or heaved which even minor deviations will dick with your dsc and traction of two wheels.

Short Answer - 440hp rwd cars are hard to drive.

Lol I can drive player. Like, WELL. My 435i was 400 hp as well. I have driven other powerful vehicles too and I'm more than capable of driving a stick. The power pull due to the traction control is what I was wondering about, to be sure my car is fine. The dtc is new to me and different than a stick or an auto... I got it now. Traction is off. Enjoying it immensely. Thanks for treating a simple question like it came from a kid who can't drive though. Cheers!

[Silverlining_m2]

I think I got it now

[McIntoshMotorSports]

Originally Posted by F82spaceship

I think I got it now

Nice!! What's the current setup on the car?

Think I gotta get myself a dragy now

[Silverlining_m2]

Originally Posted by McIntoshMotorSports

Nice!! What's the current setup on the car?

Think I gotta get myself a dragy now

Setup is stock. I got the car 7 days ago with no plans to tune. Mod yes. Tune no. I know there's been a debate in this thread about 335i vs m4, and I promise you an n55 fbo on stock turbo rwd isn't running a 3.97 uphill slightly. My 435i was 4.22 0-60 best ever. X drive is a different convo.

[McIntoshMotorSports]

Originally Posted by F82spaceship

Setup is stock. I got the car 7 days ago with no plans to tune. Mod yes. Tune no. I know there's been a debate in this thread about 335i vs m4, and I promise you an n55 fbo on stock turbo rwd isn't running a 3.97 uphill slightly. My 435i was 4.22 0-60 best ever. X drive is a different convo.

Let's come back this when your mod bug comes on strong You may end up saying hmmm.. MAYBE I'll just do stage 1…

And before you know if you're all in making big powa haha; at least that's how it is for me coming from a 335xi as well.

My FBO F30 still felt soo slow compared to this platform even at stock power; completely different worlds for sure!