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Not to mention going from a undersquare bore/stroke to a oversquare bore/stroke
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09-25-2013, 04:16 PM | #464 |
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Or, as the other side would say: What a torque deficit apologist point of view...
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09-25-2013, 04:16 PM | #465 |
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Here you have two videos, where you can actually hear the sound pretty good!
And in the second video you can see the production yellow colour again, if you look "under" the hood http://grip-magazin.de/index.php?id=317 |
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09-25-2013, 04:18 PM | #466 |
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3.0 liter 6 cyl, and maybe with same bore and stroke. When the time comes we will know. They say based ON.
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09-25-2013, 04:32 PM | #468 |
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Update:
Added VIDEOS section in tech guide (first post) with animated technical presentation video.
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09-25-2013, 04:35 PM | #469 |
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I'm looking forward to see the new ///M3 and the new ///M4!
I'm glad to see that BMW comes back to the inline 6 cylinder but I regret they use turbo.Personaly, I'd have rather prefer the atmospheric engine like the E36 or E46!!!! |
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The top mounted intercooler kinda worries me. Doesn't seem like it will cool those turbos well enough. I bet BMW knows more than i do though lol
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No missed that, that's why I actually said when the time comes....
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09-25-2013, 05:08 PM | #475 |
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amazing! that's amazing!
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09-25-2013, 05:24 PM | #476 | |
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The problem with "feel" is that you can get much more with a $25,000 Miata than with an M3. The new M3/M4 will be expensive, high performance cars, so by definition that "feel" must include power and performance. |
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09-25-2013, 05:30 PM | #477 |
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God reading some of these comments hurt my eye
Balls. I remember when the V8 M3 came out, everyone Hated it, calling it an ugly fat pig - now people sit in Here saying its the best thing since sliced bread. Who cares if its FI, the fact is the car will probably Be absolutely fantastic in many way. Sure NA is gone, But in reality who really gives a crap? I mean, at least Now you can actually bolt on an expensive exhaust and Get a dyno tune performed and see more than 5hp/tq Gain to the wheels. The car is evolving and I am glad It is doing so. The switch from NA to FI is the last thing To keep me up at night. To be honest, the switch couldn't Have came fast enough for me! MB, Audi, etc are all doing It so relax everyone, it isn't new technology. Even muscle Cars like the corvette and mustang are coming from the Factory with FI plopped ontop of their big displacement Motors. Just remember back to when the e9x M3 came Out and how much everyone hated it for being too big, Too fat, too heavy, too slow, too expensive, too "unraw" Compared to the E46, and finally too "ill never buy that POS. And now years later it IS a great car that most of Us have upgraded to from our E46 M3's. For anyone Wondering I still drive my E46 M3 and plan to do so Until I pick up a 1M, M2 (fingers crossed), or E90 M3. Will I consider the new M3? Absolutely, love the sedan Only version especially, however it may be too expensive When it first pops out of the womb! |
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Still think that the E90 is all of the above, one of the biggest reasons I never bought one. At the time ended with a C63 instead, which wasn't so big, but was a pig with massive torque and a great daily, because at the end is all what they are. Big Heavy underpowered for it's weight But the engine is a great piece. Time for an M3 to be an M3 again. Not a fan of the turbo engine, but this is no news for BMW as they have their first turbo production in the 70s.
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09-25-2013, 06:02 PM | #483 |
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The irony of this whole FI vs NA debate re the E9x M3 is that the N54 was the engine originally intended for the E9x M3 until Audi and MB came out with NA engines in the RS4 and C63, and BMW followed suit for marketing reasons. Hence the huge potential that came in the massively detuned N54 engine in the 335i.
So it is only marketing that lead to an NA engine in the M3. So BMW are going with FI in the M3 many years after they wanted to. |
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Not to mention Ferrari is already switching over to FI. By the way, I love all your posts.
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