Tractive Plug&Play suspension installed (with EDC)

[Dinan_Engineering]

Originally Posted by mhanism

Given the limited retail outlets for Tractive in the US, would you guys offer this set up? Perhaps as a supplement to the Dinan Coilover kit?

Originally Posted by Celestion

Excellent question

Unfortunately, no. Was looked into (hence why we have the setup on the car) and it simply did not work out for all parties. Maybe at a later date but I don't foresee it being revisited anytime soon.

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by Dinan_Engineering

Unfortunately, no. Was looked into (hence why we have the setup on the car) and it simply did not work out for all parties. Maybe at a later date but I don't foresee it being revisited anytime soon.

What's your impression of the system?

As good as a true coilover like Ohlin or KW?

[Dinan_Engineering]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

What's your impression of the system?

As good as a true coilover like Ohlin or KW?

I'm not much of a track rat so I'm probably not the best person to ask but ultimately it comes down to your goals. If you want the next step above springs or a HAS kit but dont want the rigidity or roughness of a true track coil-over then this is probably a good step since you can adjust it on the fly and make it pretty darn harsh if you wanted to and then change it back with a couple clicks to something more comfort driven on your way back from the track.

The fact of the matter is a lot of folks say they want a true coil over until they actually drive one all the time. Its a very unique individual that wants that experience ALL the time. Great for the feel of the track and all that but for most thats where it should stay. For daily driving they don't want to feel all the imperfections of the road and be rumbling around constantly. While they may not want floaty they don't want a coil over either. This bridges that to some degree and allows parts of both.

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by Dinan_Engineering

I'm not much of a track rat so I'm probably not the best person to ask but ultimately it comes down to your goals. If you want the next step above springs or a HAS kit but dont want the rigidity or roughness of a true track coil-over then this is probably a good step since you can adjust it on the fly and make it pretty darn harsh if you wanted to and then change it back with a couple clicks to something more comfort driven on your way back from the track.

The fact of the matter is a lot of folks say they want a true coil over until they actually drive one all the time. Its a very unique individual that wants that experience ALL the time. Great for the feel of the track and all that but for most thats where it should stay. For daily driving they don't want to feel all the imperfections of the road and be rumbling around constantly. While they may not want floaty they don't want a coil over either. This bridges that to some degree and allows parts of both.

I want good damping and body/chassis control. I want it to rebound and settle , like RIGHT NOW, when upset loaded up.

I can't believe how poor of a job BMW did on the M for rebound body/chassis control. It's so sloppy and unconfident inspiring

[momo3605]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

I want good damping and body/chassis control. I want it to rebound and settle , like RIGHT NOW, when upset loaded up.

I can't believe how poor of a job BMW did on the M for rebound body/chassis control. It's so sloppy and unconfident inspiring

Sport+ is pretty good for body control, but too harsh for street driving unfortunately. I did find the zcp sways improved the steering wobbliness and has improved the "feeling" of sloppiness

[jackkk]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

I want good damping and body/chassis control. I want it to rebound and settle , like RIGHT NOW, when upset loaded up.

I can't believe how poor of a job BMW did on the M for rebound body/chassis control. It's so sloppy and unconfident inspiring

With Tractive you can drive Comfort mode with no body roll. Mostly you can feel it wgen you drive S3 in manual mode and do from the 2 to 1 gear. The caк шт stock suspention even in Sport+ bites the front... or how to explain it... With tractive even in Comfort mode there is zore issue in this situation.
So I drive Comfort mode in daily drive and the car feel much more stable and more comfort with no body roll. On the track I use Sport+ and it drives like gokart. Now waiting for the new springs for the front.
You can also add the camber plates. The race cars with this suspention goes much quicker that cars with original coil overs.

[mhanism]

Originally Posted by jackkk

With Tractive you can drive Comfort mode with no body roll. Mostly you can feel it wgen you drive S3 in manual mode and do from the 2 to 1 gear. The caк шт stock suspention even in Sport+ bites the front... or how to explain it... With tractive even in Comfort mode there is zore issue in this situation.
So I drive Comfort mode in daily drive and the car feel much more stable and more comfort with no body roll. On the track I use Sport+ and it drives like gokart. Now waiting for the new springs for the front.
You can also add the camber plates. The race cars with this suspention goes much quicker that cars with original coil overs.

How much are these and how to get here in the US?

[swifty]

^ Will appreciate more feedback on who to obtain this suspension from in North America.

[Celestion]

Originally Posted by swifty

^ Will appreciate more feedback on who to obtain this suspension from in North America.

I've called and emailed two different American Tractive dealers (TPC Racing, and Viper Exchange). Over the phone they acted like it wouldn't problem to acquire these dampers. However, neither of these companies ever got back to me with pricing or ordering info......

I'm guessing the best way to acquire these will be through an international dealer. If you're okay with long distance relationships, Jackkk can connect you with his Russian dealer.

Honestly though, I don't understand why all of the major US venders (iND, EAS, Supreme Power, etc.) aren't interested in selling these dampers:
1. They are clearly better than everything else for performance.
2. They are also more comfortable than everything else.
3. They are are not too expensive ($5-6k), especially when compared to other equally high-end non-adjustable dampers (e.g. Ohlins TTX - $9k).

[MasterP]

These guys are tractive retailers in the US.


http://www.inertialaboratory.com

[Celestion]

Originally Posted by MasterP

These guys are tractive retailers in the US.


http://www.inertialaboratory.com

Damn. Nice find! They are local too.

[MasterP]

Originally Posted by Celestion

Damn. Nice find! They are local too.

yup. they know their stuff too. they did all the service on my AST's and JRZ's.

[jackkk]

Originally Posted by swifty

^ Will appreciate more feedback on who to obtain this suspension from in North America.

Originally Posted by Celestion

I've called and emailed two different American Tractive dealers (TPC Racing, and Viper Exchange). Over the phone they acted like it wouldn't problem to acquire these dampers. However, neither of these companies ever got back to me with pricing or ordering info......

I'm guessing the best way to acquire these will be through an international dealer. If you're okay with long distance relationships, Jackkk can connect you with his Russian dealer.

Honestly though, I don't understand why all of the major US venders (iND, EAS, Supreme Power, etc.) aren't interested in selling these dampers:
1. They are clearly better than everything else for performance.
2. They are also more comfortable than everything else.
3. They are are not too expensive ($5-6k), especially when compared to other equally high-end non-adjustable dampers (e.g. Ohlins TTX - $9k).

Guys, I can connect directly to the Tractive and they can ship the suspension directly from the factory to you. If you are interested in, please write me in PM.

Talking about the suspension - the more I drive it, the more i like it. The car should go with this suspension right from the factory. I continue to drive in in Comfort mode daily and I'm totally satisfied. The suspension works. On stock I couldn't drive the Comfort mode because of too much body rolls and car was те stable at high speed. With Tractive you can drive to the speed limit (as I did yesterday), use the Comfort mode and feels total control of the car.

[swifty]

Originally Posted by jackkk

Guys, I can connect directly to the Tractive and they can ship the suspension directly from the factory to you. If you are interested in, please write me in PM.

Talking about the suspension - the more I drive it, the more i like it. The car should go with this suspension right from the factory. I continue to drive in in Comfort mode daily and I'm totally satisfied. The suspension works. On stock I couldn't drive the Comfort mode because of too much body rolls and car was те stable at high speed. With Tractive you can drive to the speed limit (as I did yesterday), use the Comfort mode and feels total control of the car.

Pls PM me the price.

Again we can get just the shocks, correct? And will work with aftermarket like Dinan, Swifts etc?

If both shocks and springs only can we see a picture of your car with the new springs that are 20-25mm lower?

[jackkk]

Originally Posted by swifty

Pls PM me the price.

Again we can get just the shocks, correct? And will work with aftermarket like Dinan, Swifts etc?

If both shocks and springs only can we see a picture of your car with the new springs that are 20-25mm lower?

You get shots with the springs. They shipped to me the wrong front springs and I have no lowering with it on front. The rear is -5mm. I'm waiting for the right springs (for free) to get my front -20mm lower.
So it is the full coil over kit for the EDC.
Plus to this you can order camber plates and camber plates needs another springs, so it is better to decide first do you need it or not to not to pay for the springs one time more, that costs round 300euros.

[swifty]

Originally Posted by jackkk

You get shots with the springs. They shipped to me the wrong front springs and I have no lowering with it on front. The rear is -5mm. I'm waiting for the right springs (for free) to get my front -20mm lower.
So it is the full coil over kit for the EDC.
Plus to this you can order camber plates and camber plates needs another springs, so it is better to decide first do you need it or not to not to pay for the springs one time more, that costs round 300euros.

No didn't get pics yet.

[milk242]

Was quoted 4330 (3900 Euro) from inertial labs with 3-4 weeks build time about 4 weeks ago, but have to put it on hold as I'm buying a house.

[jackkk]

Originally Posted by milk242

Was quoted 4330 (3900 Euro) from inertial labs with 3-4 weeks build time about 4 weeks ago, but have to put it on hold as I'm buying a house.

Where did you get this quote and for the what kit? This is not the price of the kit that I get.

[jackkk]

Originally Posted by milk242

Was quoted 4330 (3900 Euro) from inertial labs with 3-4 weeks build time about 4 weeks ago, but have to put it on hold as I'm buying a house.

I got the answer from them and you are right. 4330 (3900 Euro) is the price without taxes. You need to add your country VAT(or other taxes) to this prise.

[jackkk]

New front springs came. Lowered setting.

[ashmostro]

Looks great and I love those wheels!

What rates are the new springs?

[jackkk]

Originally Posted by ashmostro

Looks great and I love those wheels!

What rates are the new springs?

I don't know about the rates, sorry. But it feels so good. In comfort mode still more comfort that stock while zero body rolls. The car feels more usable now in all speeds.