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Have you driven a Macan Turbo? That's the closest proxy and you can figure out in a pretty short amount of time by driving the Macan S and Macan Turbo back to back if you like the "performance SUV" idea
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Definitely appreciate the suggestion, however, as that may be the X4Ms benchmark comparison.
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The X3 drives pretty awful. I got a loaner recently, and granted it was not an M Package, but it had the Eco, Comfort, Sport, & Sport+ modes. The technology seemed more up to date, but the interior lacked a whole lot. The road noise was terrible and the car seemed to drive itself, no user input or feedback.
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Not a terrible idea as the X3m is good for an SUV, but unibody SUV's are completely pointless in general. Get an RS5 sportback, pretty much a better car in every way. If only BMW made M3 and m5 wagons.
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01-03-2020, 11:44 AM | #54 |
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The X3M is less expensive, faster, roomier, etc. So how is the RS5 better at all Perhaps interior quality may be better but not by much.
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01-03-2020, 12:48 PM | #55 | |
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the x3m is like 4500+ pounds and 10 inches taller than the RS5. Being that tall and heavy has its limitations on how fast you can take a corner. (funny how BMW hasn't really allowed any mag to post lap times... yet they always bring up the 0-60). M SUVs typically tank in value. RS cars hold pretty well. Most of the reviews I've seen say the X3M is a bit too harsh for the street with its firm suspension and 21" wheels... and that the m40i variant is a better overall car.
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Better handling, better interior like you said, better looking and better ride quality. Pricing is similar, base X3m power is similar.
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01-03-2020, 01:17 PM | #57 | |
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The ride isn't any harsher than an M3 - less bouncy per my wife. The m40i with the run flats they put on it isn't exactly plush. |
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01-03-2020, 02:22 PM | #58 | |
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Anyway, I was just surprised to see someone say so definitively the RS5 is the better vehicle when most consider it overpriced and not a standout it any one attribute. |
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But anyway, aside from the subjective measures like looks (i.e. sleek coupe vs SUV), I dont see how you can say the RS5 is better in every way than the X3M which will likely outperform it, give you more interior room, and cost less. |
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Performance isn’t that impressive until you realize it’s an SUV pulling similar numbers to high performance sports sedans/coupes. For the US market, wagons just don’t sell so it’s natural to combine high HP and handling with an SUV body. Plus, BMW can’t ignore the competitors with what MB, Audi and Porsche have already put into the market. There’s always hope for being able to source the Alpina B3 touring, but I wouldn’t hold my breathe. |
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[QUOTE=AlpineWhite_SJ;25640983]Got a source for the lap times?
Performance isn’t that impressive until you realize it’s an SUV pulling similar numbers to high performance sports sedans/coupes. For the US market, wagons just don’t sell so it’s natural to combine high HP and handling with an SUV body. Plus, BMW can’t ignore the competitors with what MB, Audi and Porsche have already put into the market. There’s always hope for being able to source the Alpina B3 touring, [\QUOTE] https://fastestlaps.com/tracks/autozeitung-test-track Rs5 is #77. X3 is #107. But yes i agree BMW has done an amazing job with the XM’s for what they are and i understand why wagons are discontinued in NA. Just wish it wasn’t the case, car buyers are retarded. |
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I go into turns expecting the suv body roll, but it just isn’t there. Back when I was younger and stupider, I used to do some pretty insane driving in an suv, but I knew that vehicle’s limits in and out - when the back would swing out, how hard push to get it to go sideways without upsetting the balance, etc. but I don’t that on a public road anymore so need to get the X3M broke in and get to a skidpad to really see what it can do. |
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01-04-2020, 01:09 AM | #65 |
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that autozeitung magazine has some questionable results. They have a e90 M3 beating an f82 M4 around their track.
But yeah there are just inherent flaws with an SUV this tall and heavy when you try to make it into a sports car. TopGear gave the car a 4/10 rating. They gave the RS5 a 6/10. F80 M3 got 8/10. https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/bmw/x3-m
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Ride too stiff? Seriously, these journalists should drive a comparison point car back to back. Apparently, they haven’t drive an F8x car for a few years and forgot what it was like. |
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