Coding On "Forgot Cell Phone Alert" in F8X With Wireless Cell Phone Charger Option?

[jmciver]

The 7-series has a feature for it's wireless charger that helps to prevent the driver from leaving a cell phone in the charger. After the engine is stopped and the door opens (indicating the driver is getting out) the car will make a noise indicating that the phone is still in the wireless charger.

The feature is discussed in this video here (at 0:48):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvnAXCKtrQA

I have the wireless charger option in my MY17 M3 (I believe this option became available starting in late MY16 M3s/M4s). The charger works great and I use it instead of having a lightning cable in the car. However I have already left my phone in the car on more than one occasion.

So does anyone have any idea where to code this function? The operating systems in all of the modern BMWs are very similar (just like using Windows on different computers with different hardware). However, I would have no idea where to start a search for this functionality, let alone be able to translate any of the German functions (without the help of the internet, but that would be very tedious without a good starting point).

So for the Coding gurus out there, any ideas ?

[Almaretto]

The only thing in common will be HU_NBT2. Just use TM's NCD / CAFD tool to compare your vehicle to G12.

3000 HMI, 96

WCA

Comment = Verfügbarkeit Wireless Charging Ablage -> Handy Vergessen Warner CCM (über HMI) + Deaktivierbarkeit des Handy Vergessen Warner über HMI (Translation: Availability Wireless charging storage-> mobile forget Warner CCM (with HMI) + disable capability of the phone forget Warner on HMI)

OPTIONS
nicht_aktiv (not active) = 00
aktiv (Active) = 01

EDIT: I have not actually tested if this will work.

[dr.mba]

Interesting... I have wireless charging also. I have 0 knowledge of coding but would be interested if this works for anyone.

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[Almaretto]

I know coding to enable IDrive-configured, number of soft blinks works, but not mirror folding so far.

[jmciver]

Originally Posted by Almaretto

The only thing in common will be HU_NBT2. Just use TM's NCD / CAFD tool to compare your vehicle to G12.

3000 HMI, 96

WCA
nicht_aktiv (not active) = 00

Comment = Verfügbarkeit Wireless Charging Ablage -> Handy Vergessen Warner CCM (über HMI) + Deaktivierbarkeit des Handy Vergessen Warner über HMI (Translation: Availability Wireless charging storage-> mobile forget Warner CCM (with HMI) + disable capability of the phone forget Warner on HMI)

OPTIONS
nicht_aktiv (not active) = 00
aktiv (Active) = 01

EDIT: I have not actually tested if this will work.

I am still pretty new to coding F-series cars. I have coded my parent's '12 535i GT, my wife's '13 X3 and my M3, all using the cheat sheets readily available for the well known and popular coding options. But admittedly 'exploratory' coding like this is new territory for me, including using some of the more advanced coding tools like what you mentioned. What you posted may need to be broken down a bit further for me .

I guess it makes sense that a good module to start with would be th HU_NBT2 module since that is iDrive (I should have thought of that ). I remember seeing your posts about enabling the 5-blink option. The iDrive menu option for the 5-blink was found, but the code to actually make the 5-blink menu option work was still not found yet IIRC.

Is the coding you have listed above both the code for the iDrive menu option and the additional code to make the menu option functional? For what it is worth, I have iDrive 5 in my car.

[Almaretto]

Originally Posted by jmciver

I am still pretty new to coding F-series cars. I have coded my parent's '12 535i GT, my wife's '13 X3 and my M3, all using the cheat sheets readily available for the well known and popular coding options. But admittedly 'exploratory' coding like this is new territory for me, including using some of the more advanced coding tools like what you mentioned. What you posted may need to be broken down a bit further for me .

I guess it makes sense that a good module to start with would be th HU_NBT2 module since that is iDrive (I should have thought of that ). I remember seeing your posts about enabling the 5-blink option. The iDrive menu option for the 5-blink was found, but the code to actually make the 5-blink menu option work was still not found yet.

Is the coding you have listed above both the code for the iDrive menu option and the additional code to make the menu option functional? For what it is worth, I have iDrive 5 in my car.

Maybe I have been coding for too long, but what I posted seems rather straight forward. If you use Cheat Sheets, you know each lists sections (though irrelevant because things do move around) as well as funktions, plus factory and new values. Options, is listing available drop-down selections.

I also posted above that idrive-configured toggle for blinkers works; you still do need to also code funktion as before for five.

Lastly, the last line of what you quoted states that I have not tested wireless charging coding. I am not sure what ampere you get from wireless, but usb outputs 2.1. I never use wireless charging; that and I charge my phone every 2-3 days.

P.S. 6NW is only available in ID5+.

[jmciver]

Originally Posted by Almaretto

Maybe I have been coding for too long, but what I posted seems rather straight forward. If you use Cheat Sheets, you know each lists sections (though irrelevant because things do move around) as well as funktions, plus factory and new values. Options, is listing available drop-down selections.

I also posted above that idrive-configured toggle for blinkers works; you still do need to also code funktion as before for five.

Lastly, the last line of what you quoted states that I have not tested wireless charging coding. I am not sure what ampere you get from wireless, but usb outputs 2.1. I never use wireless charging; that and I charge my phone every 2-3 days.

P.S. 6NW is only available in ID5+.

I will go back and take a look at the iDrive 5-blink thread again. I thought it had not been sorted out yet .

As for this coding mod, I think I understand what you are saying now about how to navigate the menu structure in the ECU for this particular item. I will go in and take a peek to see what I can figure out based on what you posted.

As for wireless charging functionality, the unit that BMW offers is not a 'fast' charger so USB will charge faster. I bought a cheap Qi fast charger and adapter case for my iPhone 6s off Amazon. I have found the lack of a fast charger in the car has not been an issue for me and my mild OCD likes not having the lightning cable in the car. The wireless fast charger in the house charges as fast as the USB cable. Having the phone tucked away in the center console is a plus for me as well, until I leave the damn phone in the car, hence my desire for this coding mod .

[n54 xdrive]

Originally Posted by Almaretto

The only thing in common will be HU_NBT2. Just use TM's NCD / CAFD tool to compare your vehicle to G12.

3000 HMI, 96

WCA

Comment = Verfügbarkeit Wireless Charging Ablage -> Handy Vergessen Warner CCM (über HMI) + Deaktivierbarkeit des Handy Vergessen Warner über HMI (Translation: Availability Wireless charging storage-> mobile forget Warner CCM (with HMI) + disable capability of the phone forget Warner on HMI)

OPTIONS
nicht_aktiv (not active) = 00
aktiv (Active) = 01



EDIT: I have not actually tested if this will work.

I set WCA to Active & it just gives you ability to check box for alert but no sound or notification happens upon leaving car.

[Almaretto]

Originally Posted by n54 xdrive

I set WCA to Active & it just gives you ability to check box for alert but no sound or notification happens upon leaving car.

That is interesting that you are able to check option, but it does not work.

It may be a hardware as well as software / firmware limitation or missing additional required funktion parameters.

For the following options, I can only see, but not select, menu option: Auto-PDC & Auto-Fold mirrors with Lock. Comparatively, I can toggle number of Soft "Triple Blinks" after coding HU_NBT2.

[jmciver]

Glad to see that part works, which is not surprising. But what is also not surprising is that there is some other "hidden" function that is paired with this one in order for it to work properly.

For n54 drive, did you try different "exit sequences" to verify if the exit reminder will work? For example, in my car I coded the driver seat to move back prior to exiting the vehicle (and then move forward when I get in the car). I noticed that this sequence only worked properly for a true "driving sequence". If I did something in the car, where I actually didn't start the engine and drive away, this auto seat back/forward feature would not always work properly.

If there is a paired function, would it be similar to the same function that removes the seatbelt gong when entering/exiting the car? Just a thought ......

[Almaretto]

I just watched video for first time. They should actually show the alert in action. It is unclear as to in what form and when it would occur.

There may be something to the exist sequence. If car is coded to turn off electronics when door opened, I wonder if this would affect warning.

[jmciver]

Originally Posted by Almaretto

There may be something to the exist sequence. If car is coded to turn off electronics when door opened, I wonder if this would affect warning.

Good point. I coded my car to turn off with opening the door. May have to turn it on to see if that will allow this to work.....

[mstevens]

Originally Posted by Almaretto

I know coding to enable IDrive-configured, number of soft blinks works, but not mirror folding so far.

I'd love details. I've been able to get a check-box to appear in the exterior lighting configuration screen, but haven't been able to get to do anything. Checking the "5 blinks" box does exactly what the "3 blinks" box does.

[Almaretto]

Originally Posted by mstevens

I'd love details. I've been able to get a check-box to appear in the exterior lighting configuration screen, but haven't been able to get to do anything. I haven't even been able to check the box.

I coded five blinks in respective module (Fem_body or BDC_body) and then HU_NBT2. It was not so much a check box as much as select triple blink and toggle between 1, 3, or 5.

[Almaretto]

I was just reading over on Bimmerfest and some say it is just a subtle dash indication (ie no auditory alert). If that is the case, additional KOMBI coding may be required.

[jmciver]

Originally Posted by Almaretto

I was just reading over on Bimmerfest and some say it is just a subtle dash indication (ie no auditory alert). If that is the case, additional KOMBI coding may be required.

Well that doesn't sound like a very helpful type of alert, even if BMW designed it that way. Did the post give an idea what this visual alert symbol looked like?

Incidentally, I coded my car back to not turn off the MMI when opening the door (i.e. the stock configuration) and there was no audible alert when I left my cell phone in the cradle. If there is an audible alert associated with this feature (which would make the most sense), there is some other parameter that needs to be changed. I would not know what to look for, but I would guess that it is still in the HU_NBT2 ECU. Maybe a hidden werte value somewhere?

[Almaretto]

Originally Posted by jmciver

Well that doesn't sound like a very helpful type of alert, even if BMW designed it that way. Did the post give an idea what this visual alert symbol looked like?

Incidentally, I coded my car back to not turn off the MMI when opening the door (i.e. the stock configuration) and there was no audible alert when I left my cell phone in the cradle. If there is an audible alert associated with this feature (which would make the most sense), there is some other parameter that needs to be changed. I would not know what to look for, but I would guess that it is still in the HU_NBT2 ECU. Maybe a hidden werte value somewhere?

Thread is linked above. No images posted. No auditory alert.

[TINY BMW]

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