Money shifted from 3rd to 2nd

[f82fanatic]

Originally Posted by NickyC

Not that it's not possible, just that it's not "not hard to make that mistake". If it wasn't hard to do it, I've have done it countless times by now instead of never. If it's not nearly idiot proof, I promise you I would have broken many engines by now.

Best of luck to OP, maybe it's the crank hub?

So you are the benchmark for M3 MT driving excellence

I believe it's not that easy but also not that hard either. Using absolutes is a great way of undermining one's claim in an argument.

[thebatman]

Originally Posted by SanchoDivine

Shifting like a boss:

Yep, learn from the master OP. Watch and learn!!!!

[MaynardZed]

Originally Posted by NickyC

Not that it's not possible, just that it's not "not hard to make that mistake". If it wasn't hard to do it, I've have done it countless times by now instead of never. If it's not nearly idiot proof, I promise you I would have broken many engines by now.

Best of luck to OP, maybe it's the crank hub?

I would’ve said the same thing as you until I started racing. I’ve money shifted twice over the last four years in my E36 race car on track. It’s a lot different than driving on street because of the competition and adrenaline.

Now, how the OP managed to do this on the street is a different story. Hopefully he’ll get lucky and his motor survived like my S52 survived the last time I money shifted which I caught on camera. My clutch was going out, but we decided to run the last race anyways for the points. We figured what’s the worse that could happen, LOL. This was the 4 to 3rd (instead of 5th) variety. At 0:58 in the video:

This compilation had me LMAO. Funniest is the when the little civics SI's were racing each other at 2:10

[nicknaz]

Hope you didn't fully engage the clutch Op

[boss2k]

OP sorry to hear and keep us posted on what dealership found. Secondly always keep an eye on the HUD specifically for these situations and that's why the HUD is so important

[NickyC]

Originally Posted by f82fanatic

So you are the benchmark for M3 MT driving excellence

LoL that's my point! If my dumbass hasn't done this money shift in a quarter century of driving nothing but manuals, it's not easy to do!!

[G35POPPEDMYCHERRY]

Originally Posted by MaynardZed

I would’ve said the same thing as you until I started racing. I’ve money shifted twice over the last four years in my E36 race car on track. It’s a lot different than driving on street because of the competition and adrenaline.

Now, how the OP managed to do this on the street is a different story. Hopefully he’ll get lucky and his motor survived like my S52 survived the last time I money shifted which I caught on camera. My clutch was going out, but we decided to run the last race anyways for the points. We figured what’s the worse that could happen, LOL. This was the 4 to 3rd (instead of 5th) variety. At 0:58 in the video:

This compilation had me LMAO. Funniest is the when the little civics SI's were racing each other at 2:10

LMAOO the ending video..."you just killed the tranny in my car" "pothole pothole ...oh my god" lmaoo

[G35POPPEDMYCHERRY]

Originally Posted by SanchoDivine

Shifting like a boss:

i legit shift like this when i feel elegant...it feels quite rewarding to smoothly slide it into gear

[azn_fcuk]

Originally Posted by G35POPPEDMYCHERRY

LMAOO the ending video..."you just killed the tranny in my car" "pothole pothole ...oh my god" lmaoo

That was painful to watch......
Good luck OP

[gatorfast]

Originally Posted by boss2k

OP sorry to hear and keep us posted on what dealership found. Secondly always keep an eye on the HUD specifically for these situations and that's why the HUD is so important

How would the HUD prevent a money shift?

[spuntyb]

Originally Posted by BMWM5NYC

Lol Easiest way to describe the grips without photos. Learned this from an old timer over 35 years ago when I learned to drive stick.

I mean, you're not wrong...

[spuntyb]

Originally Posted by G35POPPEDMYCHERRY

i legit shift like this when i feel elegant...it feels quite rewarding to smoothly slide it into gear

[Aaaaaaaaa]

Originally Posted by boss2k

OP sorry to hear and keep us posted on what dealership found. Secondly always keep an eye on the HUD specifically for these situations and that's why the HUD is so important

Money shift is when you downshift at redline accidentally instead of upshifting. Watching the tach/HUD ain't gonna help prevent that.

[NPuter]

Originally Posted by pheerIx

Money shift is when you downshift at redline accidentally instead of upshifting. Watching the tach/HUD ain't gonna help prevent that.

But doesn't it show what gear is gated? So you can check if you want before releasing the clutch?

Still, don't think that's going to be a main focus if you're slamming through the gears.

[CharlieVictor]

For all the hate that some have for the auto revmatch, one of the benefits is that it may save you from a money shift. I know it did me just a few days ago. I went to shift from 3 to 4 and as the shifter passed through neutral the RPMs jumped waaay up. I wasn't looking at the tach, so I don't know how high, but the sudden noise was enough to keep me from letting out the clutch.

[nicknaz]

Auto rev match and rev limiter/fuel cut off won't help a mechanical over rev

[MaynardZed]

Originally Posted by NPuter

But doesn't it show what gear is gated? So you can check if you want before releasing the clutch?

Still, don't think that's going to be a main focus if you're slamming through the gears.

Right, we're talking about slamming through the gears like in a racing scenario. You wouldn't even look at the HUD, nor would the HUD even have time to indicate the incorrect gear before you've already dumped the clutch.

Certainly begs the questions. Who was the OP racing when he money shifted? If he did this while all by himself and nobody around, that IS quite a feat.

[NPuter]

Originally Posted by MaynardZed

Right, we're talking about slamming through the gears like in a racing scenario. You wouldn't even look at the HUD, nor would the HUD even have time to indicate the incorrect gear before you've already dumped the clutch.

Certainly begs the questions. Who was the OP racing when he money shifted? If he did this while all by himself and nobody around, that IS quite a feat.

Question though, does it in fact show the new gear you select before you engage the clutch?

On my 6MT S5, it only shows the new gear once the clutch is engaged, which I don't really get.

[MaynardZed]

Originally Posted by CharlieVictor

For all the hate that some have for the auto revmatch, one of the benefits is that it may save you from a money shift. I know it did me just a few days ago. I went to shift from 3 to 4 and as the shifter passed through neutral the RPMs jumped waaay up. I wasn't looking at the tach, so I don't know how high, but the sudden noise was enough to keep me from letting out the clutch.

Not quite what we're talking about. You weren't shifting very fast, like in racing, if your brain had time to process an auditory input from the rev spike and you consciously prevented yourself from dumping the clutch. I do like the auto rev match myself though too.

[Aaaaaaaaa]

Originally Posted by NPuter

Question though, does it in fact show the new gear you select before you engage the clutch?

On my 6MT S5, it only shows the new gear once the clutch is engaged, which I don't really get.

I believe the dash/HUD will display the gear once the shifter goes into its gate and before you let out the clutch. I haven't paid that close attention to that aspect. Come to think of it the auto rev match did prevent me from downshifting accidentally once. I heard the engine rev so I held the clutch in. The downshift would have been fine though.

Interesting to see what the auto rev match does if you almost perform a money shift. Hopefully it'll cut out and not perform a mechanical over rev.

[shortseller]

Originally Posted by pheerIx

I believe the dash/HUD will display the gear once the shifter goes into its gate and before you let out the clutch. I haven't paid that close attention to that aspect. Come to think of it the auto rev match did prevent me from downshifting accidentally once. I heard the engine rev so I held the clutch in. The downshift would have been fine though.

Interesting to see what the auto rev match does if you almost perform a money shift. Hopefully it'll cut out and not perform a mechanical over rev.

This would only be in sport, not in sport plus, yes?

[boss2k]

Originally Posted by pheerIx

Money shift is when you downshift at redline accidentally instead of upshifting. Watching the tach/HUD ain't gonna help prevent that.

I know what money shifting is and watching HUD will tell u which gear u shifted so for wrong downshifting u can immediately clutch in . Bottom line HUD helps